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R U an uneducated fool?

McCain would have put GM and Chrysler out of business and Ford would no longer be in business also they would have all been sold to Chinese and Indian companies.

Obama will give them the $$ to get out of bankruptcy and he already is going to guarantee there warranties.. Im sure McCain would have done that :finger::finger::finger:

No, I'm not. The conclusion that is about to be reached (bankruptcy) would have been reached sooner with McCain, that is the only difference. As far as the

warrranties?????????????...................................Who really gives a shit if they own a Ford? You do buy Ford vehicles, don't you????? :happy feet:

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Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh NO!!! ..................things are never that bad, so please, by all means, don't end you life. I also am hoping for better days ahead. Yes, I did vote for McCain (uh oh, more poli :stirpot: tical comment). And yes, it's fine to call me what you want for voting Republican. But WAIT..........HERE IS ANOTHER COMMENT

I know of several co-workers who profess to be Christians and then voted for Obama. I would say that any Christian who votes for a man that is okay with partial birth abortion is not being true their faith. Just my opinion. Yes, I know, typing FUCKED IN THE ASS on this forum(twice now!) isn't very Christian of me either.

I will suffer for that later. Another small(HUGE!!!!!!!!!!!) item of interest to every American: I simply didn't trust Obama as much on national security as McCain.

But that is another thing that one man alone cannot control.

You are the fking problem...hypocrite fking idiot!

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This is the end

Beautiful friend

This is the end

My only friend, the end

 

Of our elaborate plans, the end

Of everything that stands, the end

No safety or surprise, the end

Ill never look into your eyes...again

 

Can you picture what will be

So limitless and free

Desperately in need...of some...strangers hand

In a...desperate land

 

Lost in a roman...wilderness of pain

And all the children are insane

All the children are insane

Waiting for the summer rain, yeah

 

Theres danger on the edge of town

Ride the kings highway, baby

Weird scenes inside the gold mine

Ride the highway west, baby

 

Ride the snake, ride the snake

To the lake, the ancient lake, baby

The snake is long, seven miles

Ride the snake...hes old, and his skin is cold

 

The west is the best

The west is the best

Get here, and well do the rest

 

The blue bus is callin us

The blue bus is callin us

Driver, where you taken us

 

The killer awoke before dawn, he put his boots on

He took a face from the ancient gallery

And he walked on down the hall

He went into the room where his sister lived, and...then he

Paid a visit to his brother, and then he

He walked on down the hall, and

And he came to a door...and he looked inside

Father, yes son, I want to kill you

Mother...i want to...fuck you

 

Cmon baby, take a chance with us

Cmon baby, take a chance with us

Cmon baby, take a chance with us

And meet me at the back of the blue bus

Doin a blue rock

On a blue bus

Doin a blue rock

Cmon, yeah

 

Kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill

 

This is the end

Beautiful friend

This is the end

My only friend, the end

 

It hurts to set you free

But youll never follow me

The end of laughter and soft lies

The end of nights we tried to die

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Another point, how in the hell is practicing infanticide(partial birth abortion), which Obama says is OK, living your life right? You're kidding me

right????????????

Sorry to get off topic but this has to be addressed.

 

What is the difference in killing an unborn baby and a criminal.....In god's eye's killing is killing, is it not ?

 

 

Ok back on topic please.

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If the divorce rate is higher among conservatives it's because they actually get married!!!!!!!!!! Liberals don't even bother to tie the knot, they just shack up.

People that don't get married can't get divorced. These split-ups don't figure into divorce statistics, therefore divorce rates in blue states might show up lower

than red states. Another point, how in the hell is practicing infanticide(partial birth abortion), which Obama says is OK, living your life right? You're kidding me

right???????????? I couldn't care less about the porno and queer Catholic bishops!!!!!!

 

Thats the whole point. Conservatives want to call someone out on what they are doing wrong. But its ok for them to do their wrong. And no im not kidding, I said we all need to be concern with what we as individuals are doing and how wer are living our life. I cant live for you and you cant live for me. Its just funny the hypocrisy displayed by the righteous republicans. And that is why they lost the election. They want to lecture how their values are the right values and they don't live it.

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Brother you need to read the Bible, what does being a christian has to do with voting for someone?

Your ingorance amaze me, You sound just like some of these hypocrites conservatives. OH we believe in family values but the divorce rate among conservatives is the highest than any other group. Do you queston their religion? NO! Conservatives is the number one consumer of porno. But yet and still do you question their religion? NO! Catholics put a gay Bishop in the pulpit, but do you question their religion? NO! God is not going to judge you for who you voted for but how you are living your life. So that is who I suggest you be concern about. God forgives all if we just ask, and no one I mean no one is perfect and we all haved sinned.

 

Your "god" does not "forgive." Read Leviticus 20:13, KJV.

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This is the end

Beautiful friend

This is the end

My only friend, the end

 

Of our elaborate plans, the end

Of everything that stands, the end

No safety or surprise, the end

Ill never look into your eyes...again

 

Can you picture what will be

So limitless and free

Desperately in need...of some...strangers hand

In a...desperate land

 

Lost in a roman...wilderness of pain

And all the children are insane

All the children are insane

Waiting for the summer rain, yeah

 

Theres danger on the edge of town

Ride the kings highway, baby

Weird scenes inside the gold mine

Ride the highway west, baby

 

Ride the snake, ride the snake

To the lake, the ancient lake, baby

The snake is long, seven miles

Ride the snake...hes old, and his skin is cold

 

The west is the best

The west is the best

Get here, and well do the rest

 

The blue bus is callin us

The blue bus is callin us

Driver, where you taken us

 

The killer awoke before dawn, he put his boots on

He took a face from the ancient gallery

And he walked on down the hall

He went into the room where his sister lived, and...then he

Paid a visit to his brother, and then he

He walked on down the hall, and

And he came to a door...and he looked inside

Father, yes son, I want to kill you

Mother...i want to...fuck you

 

Cmon baby, take a chance with us

Cmon baby, take a chance with us

Cmon baby, take a chance with us

And meet me at the back of the blue bus

Doin a blue rock

On a blue bus

Doin a blue rock

Cmon, yeah

 

Kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill

 

This is the end

Beautiful friend

This is the end

My only friend, the end

 

It hurts to set you free

But youll never follow me

The end of laughter and soft lies

The end of nights we tried to die

:happy feet:

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You are the fking problem...hypocrite fking idiot!

I have been told that you can't discuss politics or anything with a liberal without being called all kinds of names. It's their default mode when they can't debate

in a civil manner. Let me guess...........................I am rascist for not voting for Obama. Whatever.............i've heard it before from other liberals. :redcard:

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Thats the whole point. Conservatives want to call someone out on what they are doing wrong. But its ok for them to do their wrong. And no im not kidding, I said we all need to be concern with what we as individuals are doing and how wer are living our life. I cant live for you and you cant live for me. Its just funny the hypocrisy displayed by the righteous republicans. And that is why they lost the election. They want to lecture how their values are the right values and they don't live it.

How do you know that I am a hypocrit? You don't even know me! Yes, you are correct, I am a conservative. My opinions about divorce rate and abortions are just that.....................my opinion. I am not calling you a hypocrit because of your opinions.

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This is the end

Beautiful friend

This is the end

My only friend, the end

 

Of our elaborate plans, the end

Of everything that stands, the end

No safety or surprise, the end

Ill never look into your eyes...again

 

Can you picture what will be

So limitless and free

Desperately in need...of some...strangers hand

In a...desperate land

 

Lost in a roman...wilderness of pain

And all the children are insane

All the children are insane

Waiting for the summer rain, yeah

 

Theres danger on the edge of town

Ride the kings highway, baby

Weird scenes inside the gold mine

Ride the highway west, baby

 

Ride the snake, ride the snake

To the lake, the ancient lake, baby

The snake is long, seven miles

Ride the snake...hes old, and his skin is cold

 

The west is the best

The west is the best

Get here, and well do the rest

 

The blue bus is callin us

The blue bus is callin us

Driver, where you taken us

 

The killer awoke before dawn, he put his boots on

He took a face from the ancient gallery

And he walked on down the hall

He went into the room where his sister lived, and...then he

Paid a visit to his brother, and then he

He walked on down the hall, and

And he came to a door...and he looked inside

Father, yes son, I want to kill you

Mother...i want to...fuck you

 

Cmon baby, take a chance with us

Cmon baby, take a chance with us

Cmon baby, take a chance with us

And meet me at the back of the blue bus

Doin a blue rock

On a blue bus

Doin a blue rock

Cmon, yeah

 

Kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill

 

This is the end

Beautiful friend

This is the end

My only friend, the end

 

It hurts to set you free

But youll never follow me

The end of laughter and soft lies

The end of nights we tried to die

 

:happy feet:

Thank you Jim Morrison. Thought you were dead

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Sorry to get off topic but this has to be addressed.

 

What is the difference in killing an unborn baby and a criminal.....In god's eye's killing is killing, is it not ?

 

 

Ok back on topic please.

Many criminals are armed and know how to use their weapons. Criminals are killed because their victims are acting in self defense. You can still call that morally wrong, but it's a fact. An unborn baby is totally vulnerable and they depend on the choices of their mother that carries them for protection. I would say their is

a HUGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!difference between the two circumstances. :reading:

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We all can repent for our sins and be forgiven. I know the KJV is not reader friendly, but if you need the bidle translated I will be gald to assist you. God does forgive thanks to the blood of Jesus.

 

Since I'm not a member of your religious cult, I can't be a "sinner." "Sin" is an idea cooked-up by the wackos who invented your religion, and "salvation" is your religions' answer to a problem it created.

 

Leviticus 20:13 KJV says it all. If you don't practice what that verse commands, you're not a christian.

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Many criminals are armed and know how to use their weapons. Criminals are killed because their victims are acting in self defense. You can still call that morally wrong, but it's a fact. An unborn baby is totally vulnerable and they depend on the choices of their mother that carries them for protection. I would say their is

a HUGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!difference between the two circumstances. :reading:

 

You conservatives are so right! You will force a person to abide byu what you believe is right. You cannot control someone else live or the decesion they make pertaing to their life. Who do you think you are. Everyone as an individual has the right to chose.

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You conservatives are so right! You will force a person to abide byu what you believe is right. You cannot control someone else live or the decesion they make pertaing to their life. Who do you think you are. Everyone as an individual has the right to chose.

 

So sayth Sarah Palin, LOL! :hysterical::hysterical:

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lol...that's classy. Act like lefties are the problem and you are the victim. I love the hypocrisy. Righties hate victimization but then play the victim all the time.

 

with that coming from the party of name-callers (hannity, rush, savage) i am unimpressed with what you've been told.

 

lol...didn't savage get kicked off tv for screaming "sodomites" at gay callers? Rush and his Feminazi comments.

 

your a piece of work.

I don't speak for Hannity,Rush, and Savage. Am I a victim? I don't think so. I can only tell of the experiences I have had when I made the mistake ( only

twice) of discussing politics in the plant. The first time I was called an idiot. The second time a racist. That was after only about two minutes of debate. So when

I say that liberals go into the default mode of calling names when they can't or won't have a civil discussion, I can back it up with experience. If you say that makes me a victim, I'm OK with that. :reading:

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You conservatives are so right! You will force a person to abide byu what you believe is right. You cannot control someone else live or the decesion they make pertaing to their life. Who do you think you are. Everyone as an individual has the right to chose.

People can have an abortion, it is their right to choose that. But please tell me where in our Constitution abortion is mentioned? The decision in Roe v. Wade was wrong I think. As a matter of fact, our founding document gaurantees our right to LIFE, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Perhaps the reason their is a RIGHT

TO LIFE movement in the US and not say in............Sweden.........is our founding document (DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE). Like I said, people can have an

abortion if they choose in my opinion, but the US government shouldn't have a damn thing to do with it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :reading:

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I don't think Ford will get more in takebacks from the union mainly because both GM/Chrys. if in bankruptcy will have billons of $$$ to pay back to the gov.while Ford won't have to therefore eliminating a need by Ford to get much of anything back from their workers. IF $$$ is the sole issue for a reopen then Ford doesn't have a need to get more from their workers....they'll be making more per car sold than the others from the getgo so if that is their reasoning it won't happen. Now if GM/Chrys. had no payback to the gov. that would be different..........but rest assured the gov.will want AND get their money back and until it does any difference in Ford's wages and the others is a mute point. while this is only an opinion...not fact it is what I think will be the result.

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People can have an abortion, it is their right to choose that. But please tell me where in our Constitution abortion is mentioned? The decision in Roe v. Wade was wrong I think. As a matter of fact, our founding document gaurantees our right to LIFE, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Perhaps the reason their is a RIGHT

TO LIFE movement in the US and not say in............Sweden.........is our founding document (DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE). Like I said, people can have an

abortion if they choose in my opinion, but the US government shouldn't have a damn thing to do with it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :reading:

 

AGREED!

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I don't think Ford will get more in takebacks from the union mainly because both GM/Chrys. if in bankruptcy will have billons of $$$ to pay back to the gov.while Ford won't have to therefore eliminating a need by Ford to get much of anything back from their workers. IF $$$ is the sole issue for a reopen then Ford doesn't have a need to get more from their workers....they'll be making more per car sold than the others from the getgo so if that is their reasoning it won't happen. Now if GM/Chrys. had no payback to the gov. that would be different..........but rest assured the gov.will want AND get their money back and until it does any difference in Ford's wages and the others is a mute point. while this is only an opinion...not fact it is what I think will be the result.

 

Not only that, but a trend is already becoming evident. Ford is getting good press..I saw Bill Ford on CNN the other day, and we all know about Ford beating Honda in quality. Ford stock is creeping up, and more and more people are saying that Ford will be their next car, since we are the only domestic company not with a hand out to the government. I see Ford being in a good competetive situation after all this shit shakes out. I think we're going to be busy making vehicles, absorbing market share, and making money for the company. I don't see any need for further concessions, at least if we don't vote for them.

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After GM and Chrysler go bankrupt, the UAW contract with those companies will be shredded. Union workers at those companies will be forced (screwed) by a bankruptcy judge into taking major wage and benefit concessions. Ford Motor Co. will follow suit because they won't be able to afford to give GM and Chrysler an

unfair competitive advantage. What will UAW members be able to do about it?.............................My answer would be this:NOTHING...........They might as

well go WHACK THEIR PUD because they (me too) won't be able to do a DAMN THING ABOUT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh , by the way, I have a title in mind that Barack

and Michele Obama could use on a new book: HOW I GOT THE UAW TO ENDORSE ME AND THEN FUCKED THEM IN THE ASS. :banghead:

 

I will tell you what the UAW members can do. Go to work everyday and do what you get paid to do. YOUR JOB! Be thankful for the years that you made out like a fatcat while sitting on your keister. Stop crying now that you have to work a little harder. O and be thankful ou stil have a job to go to that you can complain about...

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R U an uneducated fool?

McCain would have put GM and Chrysler out of business and Ford would no longer be in business also they would have all been sold to Chinese and Indian companies.

Obama will give them the $$ to get out of bankruptcy and he already is going to guarantee there warranties.. Im sure McCain would have done that :finger::finger::finger:

what good does it do to bail out auto companies? if people dont have a job, they arent buying new cars anyways :banghead:

 

how about giving each tax paying, working american $35,000....now that will get the economy moving again

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I will tell you what the UAW members can do. Go to work everyday and do what you get paid to do. YOUR JOB! Be thankful for the years that you made out like a fatcat while sitting on your keister. Stop crying now that you have to work a little harder. O and be thankful ou stil have a job to go to that you can complain about...

 

Standing ovation, great post.

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