wchain Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 A lot of the 2010 Tauruses I see for sale online and one I looked at in person had a horribly aligned trunk. I noticed when I was looking at one this weekend in person. I thought the trunk was open, but it was not. The problem is, the chrome trim around the taillight bezels makes it look even worse when its off. Maybe this is a matter of adjusting the rubber stoppers for correct alignment, but I'm really surprised to see all these units around online and a few in person that looked like this. Is anyone else seeing this? This one below seems worse than the others....driver side looks low, passenger side looks a tad high. This one actually looks correct.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danglin Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 A lot of the 2010 Tauruses I see for sale online and one I looked at in person had a horribly aligned trunk. I noticed when I was looking at one this weekend in person. I thought the trunk was open, but it was not. The problem is, the chrome trim around the taillight bezels makes it look even worse when its off. Maybe this is a matter of adjusting the rubber stoppers for correct alignment, but I'm really surprised to see all these units around online and a few in person that looked like this. Is anyone else seeing this? This one below seems worse than the others....driver side looks low, passenger side looks a tad high. This one actually looks correct.... :reading: There was another discussion in the Ford Motor Forum on Door Alignment issues. It does look like this would be easy to fix, I know that I would not accept this if I bought one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aneekr Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 (edited) Yup. As danglin mentioned, this thread in the Ford Motor Company Discussion area made note of fit and finish issues on 2010 Tauri. It's not just the trunk and doors either- fitment of the hood, exterior trim, and interior trim also leaves much to be desired on several samples I've seen. Edited November 24, 2009 by aneekr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mettech Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 Nothing more than poor assembly work. :reading: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wchain Posted November 24, 2009 Author Share Posted November 24, 2009 Hopefully someone at Chicago Assembly plant stumbles on this and they try to correct it before Job #2 gets too deep into production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Nothing more than poor assembly work. :reading: Nothing more than poor management since they are buying off on it. Seems some salaried folks will make their number no matter what the cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mettech Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Chicken and the egg..... :shades: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 Chicken and the egg..... :shades: No, its not. Its a numbers thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mettech Posted December 2, 2009 Share Posted December 2, 2009 No, its not. Its a numbers thing. Why does the person installing the trunk lid not fix it? How can the QC not see it? Who does those jobs? :shades: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyL57 Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 Apparently it is the "It;s NOT MY JOB MAN" attitiude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mettech Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 All of the trunk lids on the Taurus at the car show I went to lined up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 Why does the person installing the trunk lid not fix it? Because they have another car rammed up their ass every 45 seconds, and it's not done freehand. It's done in a jig with spacers. If it's not aligned, it's because the machine is wore out or the spacers are bad. How can the QC not see it? Why does management buy off on it? Who does those jobs? :shades: Why are we giving management back their merit raises if they will not allow the line to be shut down to fix it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabfordeb Posted January 9, 2010 Share Posted January 9, 2010 Because they have another car rammed up their ass every 45 seconds, and it's not done freehand. It's done in a jig with spacers. If it's not aligned, it's because the machine is wore out or the spacers are bad. Why does management buy off on it? Why are we giving management back their merit raises if they will not allow the line to be shut down to fix it? These cars need to be fixed before they hit the dealer sales lot and certainly before they're delivered to the Buyer. Buying is an emotional thing and if the Buyer doesn't notice it at first he eventually will, and lots of lookers will see it on the lots. If it leaves the factory this way the dealer needs to fix it. Everyone at Ford needs to take the initiative to see that this happens, otherwise it won't just be the Buyer that gets inferior quality but lots of people at Ford that won't be working if this rising Ford star we're seeing gets turned downward by a new perception that all the quality talk is so much hype and not real. I'm sure the Ford people who do the shows make sure the cars in the shows look right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2010TB Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 These cars need to be fixed before they hit the dealer sales lot and certainly before they're delivered to the Buyer... You're absolutely right... but it ain't happening. At least at the two Ford dealers I bought from recently. Couple years ago I bought an '08 Fusion from dealer 'A'... a week after buying a new Escape there. I identified what I considered a glaring issue with the trunk/taillight alignment to the bodyshop... and the first response was that the build process was computerized, the welding done by robots, and there isn't any adjustment for them to make. I must've had an incredulous look on my face, because he said if I had a problem with that answer I needed to talk to the general manager. I told the guy to go fetch him and we'd do just that... and maybe the GM should go ahead and call the district guy in because they had a problem to take care of. He then reluctantly made some adjustments to shut me up... all the while complaining that people buying $20,000 cars shouldn't expect them to be built like a Lexus. I got the same computerized/robot-welded line when I pointed out a fit issue on the new Taurus at dealer 'B', with the added comment that I should expect these kind of things on a year-one design. And kinda on the same topic, I'm not sure what I paid for 'dealer prep'... but I know I did a lot of it myself when I got home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice-capades Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 You're absolutely right... but it ain't happening. At least at the two Ford dealers I bought from recently. Couple years ago I bought an '08 Fusion from dealer 'A'... a week after buying a new Escape there. I identified what I considered a glaring issue with the trunk/taillight alignment to the bodyshop... and the first response was that the build process was computerized, the welding done by robots, and there isn't any adjustment for them to make. I must've had an incredulous look on my face, because he said if I had a problem with that answer I needed to talk to the general manager. I told the guy to go fetch him and we'd do just that... and maybe the GM should go ahead and call the district guy in because they had a problem to take care of. He then reluctantly made some adjustments to shut me up... all the while complaining that people buying $20,000 cars shouldn't expect them to be built like a Lexus. I got the same computerized/robot-welded line when I pointed out a fit issue on the new Taurus at dealer 'B', with the added comment that I should expect these kind of things on a year-one design. And kinda on the same topic, I'm not sure what I paid for 'dealer prep'... but I know I did a lot of it myself when I got home. Thanks for your comments on your experiences! The cars need to come off the assembly line initially with the quality set by the manufacturer and expected/demanded by the end customer. Doing so also reduces Ford's warranty expenses if repairs. adjustments, etc have to be made at the Dealership level. Unfortunately, most Dealers aren't going to notice minor fit and finish issues unless someone really looks the vehicles over closely and goes the extra distance at the Dealership level to have any issues addressed before delivery to the customer. I'd have to look at the Ford Service & Policy Manual for the specific vehicle "prep" procedures and time allowed to know more details. FYI... I expect that your comment about paying for "Dealer Prep" was tongue in cheek but if not you should know that there is no fee for it as it's included in the factory price. Ford reimburses the Dealer for the vehicle prep per the Service Policy Manual. If a Dealer did charge you a fee for prep, you have a valid issue to raise with the Dealer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2010TB Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 ...FYI... I expect that your comment about paying for "Dealer Prep" was tongue in cheek but if not you should know that there is no fee for it as it's included in the factory price. Ford reimburses the Dealer for the vehicle prep per the Service Policy Manual. If a Dealer did charge you a fee for prep, you have a valid issue to raise with the Dealer! Thanks for your response. I just looked, and no, there wasn't an add-on fee. I didn't realize they'd done away with that, since they all still talk about sending the car 'to prep'. I probably should pay more attention at signing time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice-capades Posted January 10, 2010 Share Posted January 10, 2010 Thanks for your response. I just looked, and no, there wasn't an add-on fee. I didn't realize they'd done away with that, since they all still talk about sending the car 'to prep'. I probably should pay more attention at signing time. Glad to hear someone didn't try to charge you a fee for vehicle prep as those fees were done away with many, many years ago! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve577 Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 . Mine was perfect in every way, but it was an early car, I ordered it in July, and I think they gave it extra attention for those reasons. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metroplex Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 My 2014 SHO has trunk alignment issues (trunk is rubbed down to bare metal where it rubs against the fender and a hole in the bumper fascia), and the hood and right front fender don't line up. The passenger door and front fender aren't aligned either. I saw several 2013s, 2014s, and 2015s with the same issue. Chicago Assembly has the worst quality assurance department at Ford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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