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Some of the new features are nice, but I like the looks of my 2020 F-350 much better.

Just sold for $500K! Henry Ford III was there too.

I've had new Wranglers since 2006 since a new Bronco never came out. Daily drivers and off-roading. LOTS of Wrangler Owners use them for both, as well as lots of Owners only use them for daily drivers. It's relative, the recent Wranglers are very comfortable daily drivers compared to the older ones. For sure not a Lexus but a very reasonable choice.

My Rubicon has that. The bad part is that on a dusty road with the windows closed and no A/C or fan on, dust is drawn in through that vent and accumulates in the rear storage area.

Still love the new Bronco, but the Moab video of the Bronco climbing up the rock actually supports the SFA argument. SFA would have allowed the drivers front tire to drop down and be on the rock giving both front tires traction, while the Bronco did it with only the passenger front tire having traction. The front locker made it work.

I test drove a new F-250 and F-350 a couple of weeks ago. The F-350 ride was quite firm and no jostling. The F-250 jostled quite a bit more. When I hooked up my 5,000 lb dry weight trailer the F-350 dropped about an inch. When I hooked up my 2008 F-150 with no tow package it probably dropped about 4", but it sits on a OEM rake so still didn't look like the butt was dragging. So I'm just guessing the new F-250 might drop 2-3". BTW, the new Superduties are fantastic trucks! I'm in love with mine!

I've been involved in the Early Bronco world for many years and know some of those guys. They're major contributors in the Early Bronco history and that's why they were selected I'm sure. Years and years of hard work and dedication to the Bronco.

Hank III attended our annual Fabulous Fords Forever car show every year when he was working in California. Very cordial and approachable. I asked him about the Early Bronco that one of our Early Bronco Limited club members restored for his father. He said they still have it and love it, drive it often.

I've bought three new, 98 Cherokee, 06 Rubicon Unlimited and 12 Rubicon Unlimited. All three have been awesome vehicles.

Telluride is also in an area well known for off-road trips in the San Juan Mountains, Alpine like country. That might be one of the reasons for the pick too.

I think I have the best regular cab in my 2008 F-150 with the rear doors. Easy access and room to store a suitcase and things for a one week trip behind the seats. I knew they were going to a single door in 2009 and that's one reason I bought mine.

Maybe you have to be a Wrangler Owner to appreciate so many things that are inconvenient with the current model are now very convenient in the new model. The update is a big deal. The video covers them all well. The good news is that the new JL model will probably continue on for several years and Ford now knows what they're up against. Maybe this will help them finalize the new Bronco and make it as good or better. I bet there are some meetings going on at Ford!

I agree on the Jeep people. The point is that Ford and Bronco lovers waiting so long for the new Bronco might go the new JL way instead.

My point is that there are lots of us that want a new Bronco. But, with it being far away from coming we might go for the JL instead and keep it, that does affect new Bronco sales.

Just revealed, and it's awesome. Jeep has stolen the thunder once again. Lots of folks tired of waiting for the new Bronco won't be able to resist the JL. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9O0q4AwK1E

The new JL Wrangler just revealed at the LA Auto show is GREAT! There are going to be lots of guys tired of waiting for the new Bronco who won't be able to resist the JL. Just taking to long and Jeep has stolen the thunder once again. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9O0q4AwK1E

Painted fenders rather than the stock unpainted black ones have been an option since 2012 and that will likely continue to be an option. The huge Wrangler aftermarket industry is amazingly responsive. It won't be long until aftermarket fenders with turn signals or turn signals to mount in another location will be available.

We have a friend who 4 wheels with his stock Bronco II except for larger tires. He's an outstanding driver and can go many places where our Early Broncos and Rubicon can go. It's amazing what a driver can do.

Looks like they're not going to mess around much with an awesome vehicle.

That one had the STX graphics on the rear bed.

I'm thinking that Ford is well aware that the Wrangler has been selling like hotcakes for the last 5 years and will continue to do so. If they wanted to produce a similar new Bronco they could have done that sooner than 2020. Watch the entire NAIAS video, it's all about electrics coming faster than expected. My guess is maybe electric motor hubs, no drive train at all? If there is a fueled engine, maybe it's just an electricity generator? EV's with 300-400 mile ranges are already announced. Am I catching the drift of the video correctly? Or is 2020 too soon for that? It's looking like combustion engines will be obsolete in just a few years? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QW_JB-IEzk

The Bronco brand identity might be stronger than it appears. The Early Bronco has reached true classic and strong pricing status today at auctions and on the market. It's positive exposure is stronger than ever. If it turns out to be a real Wrangler fighter with the same capabilities a lot of folks, particularly Ford folks, who are buying Wranglers because there's nothing else might come aboard. If it's a normal SUV with just the name and some retro styling competing with all the rest, might sell OK but might not too. That won't excite the Early Bronco crowd. I'm just guessing from events and websites there are probably 30,000 real Bronco fans in the USA. The main forum, Classic Broncos, has over 13,000 members. That's just for the 66-77 Broncos. I think the concern would be if these folks accounted for 3,000 new Bronco sales per year, might not be enough. Most Early Bronco owners are not going to get rid of their Early Bronco to buy a new one, so the new one would be an additional daily driver for them. It needs to be appealing to Wrangler buyers and the general public too. I'm sure Ford has crunched all the data!

Grand Wagoneer. Although I just read that it's been delayed.

Originally yes, but the majority of the Early Broncos in existence today are highly modified open air flared-out rock crawlers that compete very well with the Wrangler. That's a portion of the customers that Ford is aware of and needs to consider if they want it to be a Wrangler fighter. Many of my Early Bronco friends also have a Wrangler for longer and easier trips. They would likely keep their Early Bronco and get a new Bronco also if it were a Wrangler fighter.

I think size was the larger factor. Look what happened to good condition low mileage used Ranger prices in recent years. You could buy a new F150 for less.