klutzys Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 After reading the article in the Kansas City Star about Claycomo Ford's future is it me or did I just misunderstood him but it appears Wright is blaming the membership rejecting the concessions for possible closing of the Claycomo plant. The section I am speaking of is below: **********Wright noted that in exchange for concessions in the national contract in 2007, Ford pledged to invest in a flexible body shop on the Escape line here. Last year, in obtaining further concessions, Ford reiterated that Claycomo was one of five assembly plants that would receive a new product by 2012. However, that was before this past fall, when more than 90 percent of the Claycomo work force rejected additional concessions that Ford was seeking following the emergence of General Motors and Chrysler from bankruptcy proceedings. Workers at most of the other U.S. Ford plants also rejected the concessions.************ Don't blame the membership and don't blame the transfers blame it on the old decrepit building and equipment that is not cost efficient. It's cheaper to shut us down then to retool. I am the wife of a St. Louis employee and we where hoping no one here in Kansas City would not have to go through the closing of a plant. It was hard and not fun uprooting our family to follow Ford. But we did what we had to do hoping he would squeak in his retirement here at Ford. Anyway, we are trying to stay positive but so far everything seems to be falling in steps with what happened at the St. Louis plant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twincam Harley Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Well, if they didn't build the new flex body shop or bring to KCAP new product as agreed to in the 2007 National agreement, wouldn't that be breach of contract? I'm not worried about KCAP closing. If I have to move to get my retirement, so be it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipuaw164 Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 After reading the article in the Kansas City Star about Claycomo Ford's future is it me or did I just misunderstood him but it appears Wright is blaming the membership rejecting the concessions for possible closing of the Claycomo plant. The section I am speaking of is below: **********Wright noted that in exchange for concessions in the national contract in 2007, Ford pledged to invest in a flexible body shop on the Escape line here. Last year, in obtaining further concessions, Ford reiterated that Claycomo was one of five assembly plants that would receive a new product by 2012. However, that was before this past fall, when more than 90 percent of the Claycomo work force rejected additional concessions that Ford was seeking following the emergence of General Motors and Chrysler from bankruptcy proceedings. Workers at most of the other U.S. Ford plants also rejected the concessions.************ Don't blame the membership and don't blame the transfers blame it on the old decrepit building and equipment that is not cost efficient. It's cheaper to shut us down then to retool. I am the wife of a St. Louis employee and we where hoping no one here in Kansas City would not have to go through the closing of a plant. It was hard and not fun uprooting our family to follow Ford. But we did what we had to do hoping he would squeak in his retirement here at Ford. Anyway, we are trying to stay positive but so far everything seems to be falling in steps with what happened at the St. Louis plant. someone don't know what there talking about kcap is kicking dtp to the curb with its one shift quality and productivety kcap truck surpassed the fusion in the last quarter for quality suv is second for quality finally after the last plant manager ripped us off new plant manager has turned shit around and we are more flexible thats why the transit van is coming and the f-150 is staying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uaw12 Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 When you build work trucks of course your quality is good,not much to building a white stripped down truck..And for Productivety of course its good your only working one shift so your production numbers are low.... If K.C. would shut down, and God forbid it does, rejection of the modification would have nothing to do with that event. Wixom, Norfolk, and many ACH plants went along with every concession presented to them and all it did was speed up the process up of shuttering the plants by playing into the companies hands of lowering the number of employees and less product being made, thus the company used this as proof the plants were not cost effective. At LAP we also voted down the modification by a wide margin and they are sending the Escape to our plant, so if the company tries the scare tactic it is understandable. When the union resorts to this type of scare tactic it is a disgrace to the UAW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rn4 Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 When you build work trucks of course your quality is good,not much to building a white stripped down truck..And for Productivety of course its good your only working one shift so your production numbers are low.... You have no idea what KCAP builds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r7n7 Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Do you have a link to the full article? I don't see any actual quotes from Wright in what you copy/pasted. I do see KC Star putting words in his mouth and detailing past events. I've learned not to trust the news papers to adequately relay Union information. We have Union meetings, go to them, if you have questions, ask them there. I don't understand how people can be upset about UAW members fighting for their wages/standard of living/working conditions/etc. It's like they think we should all just roll over and die. If you have an option of fighting for what you have or just accepting whatever circumstances are given to you, don't you fight? You want to talk about why this country is going down the tubes, it's because of attitudes like this. We are human beings damnit, we have rights, we have value, we have lives. If you merely accept what's forced down your throat you're nothing but a tool to be used in the system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenhawkings Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 someone don't know what there talking about kcap is kicking dtp to the curb with its one shift quality and productivety kcap truck surpassed the fusion in the last quarter for quality suv is second for quality finally after the last plant manager ripped us off new plant manager has turned shit around and we are more flexible thats why the transit van is coming and the f-150 is staying Norfolk had the best quality too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipuaw164 Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 You have no idea what KCAP builds. kcap is the overflow plant thats why we build so many high end models like the king ranch and lariat sold in texas they don't want dtp trucks dealers will tell you that dtp trucks sit on the lot kcap trucks move get your quality up dtp sad but true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allen proctor Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 Do you have a link to the full article? I don't see any actual quotes from Wright in what you copy/pasted. I do see KC Star putting words in his mouth and detailing past events. I've learned not to trust the news papers to adequately relay Union information. We have Union meetings, go to them, if you have questions, ask them there. I don't understand how people can be upset about UAW members fighting for their wages/standard of living/working conditions/etc. It's like they think we should all just roll over and die. If you have an option of fighting for what you have or just accepting whatever circumstances are given to you, don't you fight? You want to talk about why this country is going down the tubes, it's because of attitudes like this. We are human beings damnit, we have rights, we have value, we have lives. If you merely accept what's forced down your throat you're nothing but a tool to be used in the system. the best tool in fords box would be the guy named bob king,fighting for contract modifications every year,jamming down our throats that we should help the company AGAIN.standard of living,,hmm i dont see king or anyone else for that matter fighting for the c crew modifications to start times,which have no valid meening to them other then screw the employee again,not to mention the easter break the have for us,,the schedule posted is not signed by anyone other then labor which is strange,barg chair and plant manager would have there names on it to if it were set in stone,great standard of living with that schedule,but anyway as far as wright,he should have givin the whats up paper from our plant manager to the news,tell them to print that,we have the best work force in north america,hell the world for that matter, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalu Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 When you build work trucks of course your quality is good,not much to building a white stripped down truck..And for Productivety of course its good your only working one shift so your production numbers are low.... King Ranch and Lariats are work trucks? Your a dumb ASS. Who else builds Regular Cabs. Answer, NO ONE. Built 62 jph in body today, kiss my harry bean bag. Texas wont even buy a truck from DTP. Crews and supers are bigger numbers than Regulars right now, Hello, economy sucks, construction guys are selling all their shit, not buying trucks, dumb ass... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalu Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 That's funny!!!!! ....Cause all dealers use to request trucks only built at Norfolk cause there quality was better than KCAP......Hmmm,Norfolk closed....... Dealers get there vehicles from what ever plant FORD decides to send them from! Of course KCAP sends alot of trucks to Texas,have you ever looked at a map,KCAP is closer to Texas than DTP,it saves Ford shipping cost.. WTF ever, get over it and move on. Location has nothing to do with it. Costs the same to ship from anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigcountry Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 King Ranch and Lariats are work trucks? Your a dumb ASS. Who else builds Regular Cabs. Answer, NO ONE. Built 62 jph in body today, kiss my harry bean bag. Texas wont even buy a truck from DTP. Crews and supers are bigger numbers than Regulars right now, Hello, economy sucks, construction guys are selling all their shit, not buying trucks, dumb ass... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalu Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Cost the same to ship from anywhere? Boy you have alot to learn if you believe that statement!!! I'm sure shipping cost won't be the deal breaker. Central location is key and KCAP is it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VDTRANSMAN Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 I'm sure shipping cost won't be the deal breaker. Central location is key and KCAP is it. Central location to what? All the components to build or final destination from assembly? Central location from assembly to final destination doesn't seem to matter much for the imports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4rd4life Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Central location to what? All the components to build or final destination from assembly? Central location from assembly to final destination doesn't seem to matter much for the imports. The Key for the imports is southern states, that = no unions which = low wages etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalu Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Central location to what? All the components to build or final destination from assembly? Central location from assembly to final destination doesn't seem to matter much for the imports. To get units to customers, seen a map lately, KCAP right in the middle, ya see it? It's right there. Fact is location , like I said in my last post, is not as big a deal these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalu Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Central location to what? All the components to build or final destination from assembly? Central location from assembly to final destination doesn't seem to matter much for the imports. Figure it out, Detroit is several hundred miles away, all stampings, frames, transmissions ect. come from ( say it with me ) DETROIT. So DTP gets all the good sheet metal since there in the backyard, KCAP gets all the reworks and shit. We still have the best quality .All the components to build or final destination, c'mon, seems everyone up north wants KCAP gone, kind of like an insurance policy for everyone up there to make you feel safe and all fuzzy inside. We have Norfolk, Jersey, St. Louis, Minnesota, Tennesee, and probably more who came to KCAP. Another move would be buisiness as usual for most, life goes on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F250 Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 Figure it out, Detroit is several hundred miles away, all stampings, frames, transmissions ect. come from ( say it with me ) DETROIT. So DTP gets all the good sheet metal since there in the backyard, KCAP gets all the reworks and shit. We still have the best quality .All the components to build or final destination, c'mon, seems everyone up north wants KCAP gone, kind of like an insurance policy for everyone up there to make you feel safe and all fuzzy inside. We have Norfolk, Jersey, St. Louis, Minnesota, Tennesee, and probably more who came to KCAP. Another move would be buisiness as usual for most, life goes on... How did that P415 launch go at DTP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipuaw164 Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 It was the Best Launch in FORD History!!! BULLSHIT IT WAS THE WORST IN FORD HISTORY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipuaw164 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Figure it out, Detroit is several hundred miles away, all stampings, frames, transmissions ect. come from ( say it with me ) DETROIT. So DTP gets all the good sheet metal since there in the backyard, KCAP gets all the reworks and shit. We still have the best quality .All the components to build or final destination, c'mon, seems everyone up north wants KCAP gone, kind of like an insurance policy for everyone up there to make you feel safe and all fuzzy inside. We have Norfolk, Jersey, St. Louis, Minnesota, Tennesee, and probably more who came to KCAP. Another move would be buisiness as usual for most, life goes on... You just told everyone something about DTP Lets see here DTP gets all the top quality parts Stamping,Frames,Transmissions etc This is Funny Quality Standards are the same on all parts shipped no matter where they go Fact is KCAP builds a better quality truck than DTP They want KCAP gone because KCAP sets the standard for assembly plants in North America Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 seater Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 It's bad to say but FORD could close KCAP........KTP could build F-150's and once LAP is retooled they could buld the new version Escape.... Ford did same thing to Norfolk,they built DTP and closed Norfolk..... You never know what this company will do.......Hopefully we can all stay working!!! Best of Luck to you!!! Umm.....,,,LAP is already going to build the new version escape. Where have you been? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allen proctor Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 DTP is the best assembly plant in the world!!! We put out record numbers of quality trucks everyday......KCAP you will match us one day.. lol is that why we have to send our trucks up there that we build so you guys can have somthing to show media,,,plain and simple,,your a idiot,and a shit stir 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikem12 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 You send your trucks up here to DTP so we can use them as test crash vehicles since DTP trucks are too good to crash up..... I am curious as to what the actual JPH is at DTP. I got told KCAP truck side is going to 70 jph. I was just wondering if DTP was too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordworker Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 DTP is the best assembly plant in the world!!! We put out record numbers of quality trucks everyday......KCAP you will match us one day.. DTP will always be the most favored plant in the world for Ford... DTP,KTP and Avon Lake will be the 3 plants building the pickups in the future..all 3 are in the "supply chain", sorry thats just how it is.. the V6 is coming from Cleveland the V8 from Detroit and Windsor..Norfolk was closed because it was out of the supply chain its just that simple.. KC will get a different vehicle though....next Ranger or some other car.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipuaw164 Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 DTP will always be the most favored plant in the world for Ford... DTP,KTP and Avon Lake will be the 3 plants building the pickups in the future..all 3 are in the "supply chain", sorry thats just how it is.. the V6 is coming from Cleveland the V8 from Detroit and Windsor..Norfolk was closed because it was out of the supply chain its just that simple.. KC will get a different vehicle though....next Ranger or some other car.... just how it is you may be right no plant building trucks has matched kcap and never will f-150 has been there since 1961 for a good reason "quality" move the f-150 out of kcap and i will not buy another one and i may work for ford and not drive a ford quality products are not built in michigan or ohio top plants in north america are in missouri and kansas kcap and fairfax in 2011 i will vote for the company fuck you assholes playing into this whipsaw bullshit UAW Detroit is a suck city it sucks from the tax payers and returns nothing other than islamic nuts with bad underwear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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