Michael Reynolds Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 A short article regarding Ford's new Terrain Response, and how the folks and Land Rover feel about it: http://www.autoblog.com/2010/04/21/land-rover-to-ford-good-luck-with-terrain-management-just-rem/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGallun Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 A short article regarding Ford's new Terrain Response, and how the folks and Land Rover feel about it: http://www.autoblog.com/2010/04/21/land-rover-to-ford-good-luck-with-terrain-management-just-rem/ lol... ya, yippie... lets not forget that ford picked them off the scrap heap and put millions of dollars into them over the years to save their sorry asses.. buahahaha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 (edited) It's funny that it's an official press release. But it also illustrates exactly the mentality that Ford failed to weed out at Land Rover and at Jaguar. Edited April 21, 2010 by RichardJensen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inselaffe Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 (edited) But it also illustrates exactly the mentality that Ford failed to weed out at Land Rover and at Jaguar. What mentality? I worked at Ford Europe for nearly a decade and my dealings with Jaguar and later LR's people on the diesel engines were very positive, certainly far less insular and less difficult to deal with than Volvo (from a powertrain perspective at least). Edited April 21, 2010 by Inselaffe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang2 Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 A short article regarding Ford's new Terrain Response, and how the folks and Land Rover feel about it: http://www.autoblog.com/2010/04/21/land-rover-to-ford-good-luck-with-terrain-management-just-rem/ As long as Ford doesn't mimic LR's customer satisfaction and dependability.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 (edited) What mentality? I worked at Ford Europe for nearly a decade and my dealings with Jaguar and later LR's people on the diesel engines were very positive, certainly far less insular and less difficult to deal with than Volvo (from a powertrain perspective at least). Based on what I've heard from Austin as well, there were few problems on an engineer to engineer basis. However, Jaguar & LR management did not want to 'taint' their brands with excessive sharing with Ford products. Even if you grant that the XType was a most ham-fisted endeavor (which it was), you had JLR management clinging to the notion that their custom engineered highly tailored specialized platforms were self-sustaining (which they weren't). JLR are to BMW and Mercedes what the Tundra is to the F150. The volume that the F150 generates produces an incredible amount of R&D funding that Toyota has to funnel into the Tundra from outside sources. Ditto JLR. Mercedes' S-Class funds its own ongoing development. The XJ? Not so much. JLR management, IMO, could not come to terms with the reality that Ford could not/would not continue to dump R&D funding generated by other product lines into their products. IMO, Ford never had the proverbial 'come to Jesus' meeting with JLR execs where they were informed that their notions of what was sustainable were out of line with reality. The only viable option for JLR then was architecture sharing, a concept that neither brand's executives had any stomach for. JLR management led a cooperative Ford along a primrose path. Edited April 21, 2010 by RichardJensen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 Ford's response: Just remember who paid for you to develop Terrain Response.......and for the LR3/Discovery 3.....and for the Range Rover Sport.....and for the LR2.......and for improvements to the Range Rover.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 (edited) We naturally wish our friends the best of luck with their new vehicle. We just want everyone to know where the system was invented. And that was right here at Land Rover. Ford's response, We also wish our friends at Jaguar/Land Rover the best of luck with their new masters, Tata. We just want everyone to know who carried the cost of Jaguar/Land Rover programs for years. And that was right here at Ford. Edited April 22, 2010 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 Ford's response, We also wish our friends at Jaguar/Land Rover the best of luck with their new masters, Tata. We just want everyone to know who carried the cost of Jaguar/Land Rover programs for years. And that was right here at Ford. Yours is better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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