falcman Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Long story short - FPV quotes 335kW (450HP) for the blown Coyote (codename Miami). They were referring to the power at the WHEELS! Read on! Three weeks ago a local Ford-dedicated magazine, "Street Fords", had a press car for a few days. Their first stop was the strip with a time of 12.92 @ 114MPH (2.1 60'). With the 120kg driver it tipped the scales at 4277lbs. Traction was an issue. They then took it to a performance workshop, threw it on the rollers to record 353rwkw (473.9rwhp)!!!! They were dumb-struck, off course, so they took it to another dyno the next day. That reeled off 328rwkw (440rwhp). *Bare in mind, driveline loss is more than what you're used to in the U.S.; it's (calculated to be) closer to 25% here in Oz.* The internet arguments started - many were skeptical that this is pulling over 550 flywheel hp with that Trap Speed. UNTIL.... This morning, when another reputable workshop got the exact result. No, not a press car, but a customer's. Bang on 325rwkw. Second run, tightened down even harder, the GT's ecu pours more boost, fuel and timing as more heat is detected. It pulled 333rwkw. One of the skeptics was there. He did the extra tightening. He was gobsmacked. This tuner explained why the MPH was down. The gear changes come with heavy torque truncations, thus inhibiting the power during shifts down the strip - obviously won't come into play on a dyno. A very slight play with the SCT flasher resulted 355rwkw (over 600HP!!!). Not bad for a non-intercooled 1.9 tvs. Hats off to Ford USA for designing a brilliant base for FPV to work off. Thank you! /The intercooled version is on it's way :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Wow, so the engine could be making 475 HP at the flywheel? Talk about understating the power of an engine, that thing is a lethal combination yet it so soft on the tune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercury_1988 Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 You lucky Australians . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVTDarkCobra Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 I love this car so much. Does it sound crazy to move to Australia just for this car? :shades: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fou_bleu Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Give it some real tyres and then you'd see the times to match the power... Right, now the pessimist in me is out, time to bring on the good times! Can't wait to see this thing on Top Gear Aus and SMASH the GTS and finally beat its younger brother (F6)!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goinbroke2 Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Wow! :happy feet: Now knock off two doors and 500lb's.... Miami based mustang.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcman Posted November 12, 2010 Author Share Posted November 12, 2010 Wow, so the engine could be making 475 HP at the flywheel? Talk about understating the power of an engine, that thing is a lethal combination yet it so soft on the tune. It's actually 550+ at the fly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30 OTT 6 Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Everytime I see a picture of the current Falcon I see a four door SN95 Mustang, especially from the front. That's a good thing, just not in 2010! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goinbroke2 Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 [shudder] please don't use 4 door and mustang in the same sentance. The falcon is an awesome car, they just stuck the steering wheel on the wrong side! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 (edited) Wow! :happy feet: Now knock off two doors and 500lb's.... Miami based mustang.... GT Falcon is just on 4,000 lbs, the rear leg room is 39", It's fighting in a different weight division. A redesigned Falcon that shares a lot of Mustang parts and drops 200-300 lbs? A lot of people on both sides of the Pacific would like that... Edited November 12, 2010 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papilgee4evaeva Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 If this engine doesn't end up in the next Shelby GT500, Ford NA just isn't trying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versa-Tech Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 GT Falcon is just on 4,000 lbs, the rear leg room is 39", It's fighting in a different weight division. A redesigned Falcon that shares a lot of Mustang parts and drops 200-300 lbs? A lot of people on both sides of the Pacific would like that... That's the first time I've ever heard anyone say "both sides of the pacific... :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 That's the first time I've ever heard anyone say "both sides of the pacific... :P So long as both regions end up with the best possible cars, I'm good for what ever can be done it terms of common engineering but not at the expense of either cars main attributes.. I hope that makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 (edited) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-KoOnCJEkg&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNwsz6RSB4s&feature=related Edited November 13, 2010 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMSA-XJR9 Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 So, so lovely . . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcman Posted November 16, 2010 Author Share Posted November 16, 2010 The below is a GS with the detuned 315kW model. The numbers on the dyno, in this case, aren't the same as what's on the badge. But nevertheless, it's amazing how much he's gained with the tune. Same (EXTREME TUNING) dyno, by the way. Well its time to get this started. Picked up the XFT GS test ute. Very nice car to drive. I drove straight back to the shop after picking it up 5.00 and got to give it a quick flick on the dyno. http://twitpic.com/37cks5 So lets start. http://twitpic.com/37cl0l First pull. http://twitpic.com/37cl9t Now as you can see' date=' Boost is terrible, something we didnt see on the GT. Possible differance in exhaust on the ute to the GT? Something we will be able to look into. http://twitpic.com/37clfm So, Lets just through the changes bwteen the 2 maps on the GT/GS tunes into the GS base map and see what happens. http://twitpic.com/37clr8 Yes, Definatley not the power we saw the GT make. Again look at the horrible boost control of the thing. http://twitpic.com/37coi1 Ok enough of that, Lets just run the boost with me tuning it close to what we saw the GT run and see what power it makes. http://twitpic.com/37cou4 [b']Now lets increase the rev limit a touch[/b] http://twitpic.com/37cm45 So all in all exciting times for the new generation of Fords, One thing is for certain, they are all not the same in the power stakes. I cant touch this thing again now until the weekend as I am too busy but dont worry I will be playing again soon and lets just see what we can get out of a stock Ford with just a tune before we head into the mods. As you can see from the graphs it has only had a couple of pulls on it so fine tuning will yield some nice figures. Also, Removed that pesky torque reductions on gear shifts etc. MUCH MUCH nicer now. Turn off the traction and it will smoke 'em...... .. Not that i would do that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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