bpm382 Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 Does anyone know why the "Plus" package comes with reverse sensors but no back up camera? I know the back up camera is a separate "add on" feature, but what really doesn't make sense to me is that of all the XLT's Super Crews that I have see on dealer lots that have the "Plus" package, not a single one has the back up camera as well. Why doesn't Ford make any "plus" package SLTs that have the back up camera already installed? It's looking like I am going to have to order one with the backup camera if I really want one. This seems like poor planning from Ford. Why is so hard to get a back up camera on a XLT Supercrew? This is driving me crazy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 Does anyone know why the "Plus" package comes with reverse sensors but no back up camera? I know the back up camera is a separate "add on" feature, but what really doesn't make sense to me is that of all the XLT's Super Crews that I have see on dealer lots that have the "Plus" package, not a single one has the back up camera as well. Why doesn't Ford make any "plus" package SLTs that have the back up camera already installed? It's looking like I am going to have to order one with the backup camera if I really want one. This seems like poor planning from Ford. Why is so hard to get a back up camera on a XLT Supercrew? This is driving me crazy... Apparently Ford thinks people will want the PLUS package without the backup camera, which I could understand. Maybe you should be mad at the dealers who don't order them that way for dealer stock..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p38fln Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 I ordered the plus package so I could have a rear window defogger - I don't care so much about the reverse camera Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmmec Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 I almost didn't get the BU camera, but on a SCREW with 6-1/2' bed, I'm sure glad I changed my mind and got it at the last minute -- expensive, but worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomerjst Posted March 2, 2011 Share Posted March 2, 2011 Any one know if the wiring is in place for the camera? Just add camera and new mirror? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpm382 Posted March 2, 2011 Author Share Posted March 2, 2011 Does anyone know why the "Plus" package comes with reverse sensors but no back up camera? I know the back up camera is a separate "add on" feature, but what really doesn't make sense to me is that of all the XLT's Super Crews that I have see on dealer lots that have the "Plus" package, not a single one has the back up camera as well. Why doesn't Ford make any "plus" package SLTs that have the back up camera already installed? It's looking like I am going to have to order one with the backup camera if I really want one. This seems like poor planning from Ford. Why is so hard to get a back up camera on a XLT Supercrew? This is driving me crazy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpm382 Posted March 3, 2011 Author Share Posted March 3, 2011 I just thought that if your reverse sensors were picking something up, that you would want to be able to see what is was picking up through your back up camera. It just seems logical that a back up camera and a reverse sensing system would be included in the same package. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 I just thought that if your reverse sensors were picking something up, that you would want to be able to see what is was picking up through your back up camera. It just seems logical that a back up camera and a reverse sensing system would be included in the same package. Reverse sensing has been offered for 10 years without backup cameras. They're redundant. One shows you what's behind you. The other lets you know if something is there or not. They can be combined but I don't see why it should be expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpm382 Posted March 3, 2011 Author Share Posted March 3, 2011 Reverse sensing has been offered for 10 years without backup cameras. They're redundant. One shows you what's behind you. The other lets you know if something is there or not. They can be combined but I don't see why it should be expected. OK, thanks for your response. Which one do you thing is more effective ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndeerefarmer Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 OK, thanks for your response. Which one do you thing is more effective ? You can't order the camera without getting the plus package so I assume that the wiring harness for the plus package also contains the wiring for the camera. Since the XLT is more the "middle of the line" truck Ford doesn't include it because it's expensive. I would assume that if you can find an XLT with the plus package you should be able to buy the camera and mirror and have them added. I have had the sensors for 6 years, they work great to keep you from backing into cars or buildings but don't do shucks for helping you hitch up your trailer- if you have a bumper pull trailer you want the camera without a doubt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 OK, thanks for your response. Which one do you thing is more effective ? As johndeerefarmer points out the camera is much more useful for other things. And the sensors just say "something" is behind you (maybe - they do give false alerts). If I had a choice I'd get the camera. BTW - don't assume just because you have to buy the Plus package to get the camera that it includes the wiring. That may or may not be the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bb37 Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 (edited) My 2009 Taurus Limited has the reverse sensors, but no back-up camera. The reverse sensors work pretty well and even give you some warning if there is something just off the corner of the bumper. In other words, if an object is not directly behind you, but still close to the rear bumper, you'll get a warning. By the way, the reverse sensors only work when the transmission is in Reverse. When the time comes for me to go shopping for a 2011 F-150, it will probably be an XLT SCrew 5.5' bed and I think I'd like to have the Plus package so as to get the reverse sensors. I'd like to have the camera, too, but I do not like the way Ford mounts the back-up camera on the F-150s. The camera is in the Ford logo on the tailgate. The logo sits on a housing that projects out from the tailgate an inch or so to accomodate the camera. I think it looks a little goofy and there has to be a cable running from the bed to the tailgate that flexes everytime you operate the tailgate. Also, if you ever remove the tailgate, you'll have to disconnect the camera. So, I'll probably opt out of the factory back-up camera and go for an aftermarket one like the Boyo's that mount to the license plate frame. It would be nice if I could wire that camera to the stock wiring harness and a factory Ford mirror with the built-in display. Edited March 3, 2011 by bb37 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heretic897 Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 I guess think profit margin... I agree, doesn't make sense to have bu sensors and no camera on the Plus package. Seems like an obvious item in the Plus pkg. I wasn't going to get one either, but like Johndeerefarmer mentions, if you are going to hitch a trailer (solo), they are well worth the $$. I added mine on my screw - gladly have that over the Satelite radio receiver - dealer told me that I couldn't remove that - I won't pay for something I get for free so there is $200 I'll never see again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikesxpress Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 (edited) I guess think profit margin... I agree, doesn't make sense to have bu sensors and no camera on the Plus package. Seems like an obvious item in the Plus pkg. I wasn't going to get one either, but like Johndeerefarmer mentions, if you are going to hitch a trailer (solo), they are well worth the $$. I added mine on my screw - gladly have that over the Satelite radio receiver - dealer told me that I couldn't remove that - I won't pay for something I get for free so there is $200 I'll never see again... I have seen the back up camera that shows in the rear view mirror. Kind cheezy so I didn't get one with my XLT order. $450.00 for it. If you bought the Nav then it would display on the screen there which looks to be more useful. It would have been nice for hooking up the boat but I have done it for 30 years without it. No back up sensors. Annoying beeping is not for me. The dumbo mirriors are just like my SuperDuty and that kept me from hitting anything. Edited March 4, 2011 by mikesxpress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilmo Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 I ordered the plus package and am glad the camera wasn't part of the package. The camera is not for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lkbrow1 Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 I have both a camera and backup sensors on my current truck. They each have their strengths. The camera will show you things that the sensors will not detect. And I have my camera low enough that I can see under my 5th wheel and see if the tires are OK. But I have had trouble with water getting in the camera and had to replace it. You can replace the tailgate camera with an aftermarket camera. See subject in SuperDuty Forum. The back up sensor will sometimes catch things moving in from the side before you see it on the camera and the sound will give you more time to react. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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