Another What If?

[cal50]

A group of union workers who want to squash union jobs?

 

The bane of the planet as far as the use of evil oil, the ones who create the machines......autoworkers......discussing an oil pipeline with a straight face for or against?

 

I got a what if for you------------>what if Obama gets re-elected and has his way and gas goes to 6 bucks a gallon putting all of you out of work and the sub fund goes broke, the union is thrown out because it is now broke, and to keep your job, you must take a cut in pay to 12 bucks an hr? Will that be GW and the republicans fault too?

 

 

I bet someone here will say it is, lolol.

 

 

The $12 an hour employees will be union with more head count.

The IUAW and blind union cheerleaders can then crow how the $12 an hour would have been $9 without their help.

 

....and yes its caused by that "other" party.

[fmccap]

For all you Ron Paul fans:

http://www.littleredumbrella.com/2012/01/lets-be-clear-ron-paul-fucking-sucks.html

Seeing..."seems to be getting a disturbing amount of support from liberals. " tells me you guys would not like to see him in the general election.

[retro-man]

Thats a lot of what if's.

 

But what if Obama gets re-elected and gas does not go up to 6 bucks and we are not out of work?

Remember the last time we had a President who gave us peace, full employment, and a budget surplus?

 

 

Yeah. They'll find something.

[xr7g428]

Clinton was not impeached for cheating, he was impeached for perjury and obstruction of justice. I think he was great President, and I would like to see him back in office if that were possible, but the facts are still the facts.

[retro-man]

Clinton was not impeached for cheating, he was impeached for perjury and obstruction of justice. I think he was great President, and I would like to see him back in office if that were possible, but the facts are still the facts.

He was a very effective President, if a flawed human. (If we could have had his effectiveness and Carter's decency). That's why it's such a shame the effort that was expended to pin something - anything on him at the time. In light of the events of 9/11 a few short years later, Ken Starr's knit-brow seriousness, and the millions and millions of dollars and hours spent over what in previous decades would have been a personal - not a public - issue seems frivolous and pathetic. Although I am not excusing perjury and obstruction of justice, if they'da just stayed the hell out of his bedroom like politicians from time immemorial had the good sense to do ( LINK ) perjury and obstruction of justice wouldn't have presented themselves as issues.

Clinton is not the first president to be accused of sexual misconduct, but his administration is the first to be consumed by such charges. Many of the alleged offenses of the past 209 years were just whispers, and in cases where the episodes were apparently real, they didn't become public until well after the presidents were out of office. Still, while nobody seems to get into as much trouble over marital fidelity as Bill Clinton, nobody has shown the uncanny resiliency to get out of such trouble as well.

The puffed up indignation of Gingrich and others have been exposed for the hypocrisy that they are. How much energy that could have been spent building the country was instead spent tearing down the man? (One might well ask the same question at present.) The effort to go after Clinton was pure partisan meanness, and part and parcel to what has infected politics since then. On the one hand, it might come back to bite Gingrich. On the other hand, the whole episode might have served to inure the population to such moral backsliding. Who wants to go there again? Certainly his candidacy in the face of that history shows an in-your-face attitude. And his new-found "forgiveness" and "grace" (could he be any more toadying to the Evangelical movement?) is right up there with Clinton's "I didn't inhale" on the believability index. The fact that the best they have come up with against the current President so far is Rev. Wright and the birthers shows just how immaculate Obama's background must really be. Edited January 25, 2012 by retro-man

[Bored of Pisteon]

A group of union workers who want to squash union jobs?

 

The bane of the planet as far as the use of evil oil, the ones who create the machines......autoworkers......discussing an oil pipeline with a straight face for or against?

 

I got a what if for you------------>what if Obama gets re-elected and has his way and gas goes to 6 bucks a gallon putting all of you out of work and the sub fund goes broke, the union is thrown out because it is now broke, and to keep your job, you must take a cut in pay to 12 bucks an hr? Will that be GW and the republicans fault too?

 

 

I bet someone here will say it is, lolol.

 

Yeah, that someone and most of the other hammond egger humanoids that pay how much in dues a month? Just to get one-sided pre-packaged propaganda?

 

$5.00 a gallon gas is a reality this summer, especially in a high taxed state like Michigan. But yet, the complacent motorheads,( and senile snowbirds) of Michigan will go all out and blow all their money on casino trips up north, fishing junkets with their dingys, beer, lottery tickets. Off-roading, hell, even the city folks gotz to crooz around in they rusted out hoopties with ghetto bling bling 24" rims on them now! Hey, that's Michigan for ya! I just can't wait until November...

Edited January 25, 2012 by Bored of Pisteon

[Imawhosure]

Well, the story goes that some people believe 1 thing, others believe the other thing...............and screw the facts!

 

I do not demand that I am correct; in fact I am wrong at times, and Daddy has proven that, and I respect him for it.

 

I am not an economics professor, and they are so much all over the place on the correct thing to do, even if I was you could find 50 to agree, and 50 to disagree with what I said.

 

But one thing I am is a student of history; what has worked, and what has not! The worth of most policys put into affect do not show the amount of improvement many times until long after a President has left office, which is why we throw Presidents out of office, then discover they were much smarter in policy then we were.

 

In this vein, let me say that Obamas policy towards energy may make him the best President we have ever had...... a visionary that came way before his time. His policys may make us a powerhouse 15, 20, 25yrs down the road. The problem is---------->he is ALL IN! If it doesn't work fast enough, we are SCREWED. If he had a balanced approach by TAXING present energy created by oil today, putting that tax towards growing TOMMORROWS energy for the future, his election prospects would be much better than they are today because it makes total sense. Instead, he panders to enviro fruitcakes, and that will be his downfall as our energy prices this summer choke off any recovery that could have happened, and that pipeline will sink him faster than the Bismark! You leberals will have to explain WHY gasoline will cost 5 bucks a gallon, meanwhile back at the ranch........you stop a pipeline, drilling, etc. You can't, I know it, you know it, and anyone with an iota of intelligence will realize it.

 

As far as the charming and delightful Doctor Ron Paul------------> what would anyone have me say more than I already have? His foreign policy is ignorant by any thinking Americans imagination.

 

We can't afford it?

 

I bet we can, cause when someone is knocking on an allies door, they will pay our way, but we can't respond unless we are there in the 1st place. You see, I am not an advocate of us paying to keep everyone free, I am just an advocate of insuring that WE CAN keep the world free; because everyone must understand one sad truth---------->Those that are not free will band against those who are. If we are one of a few nations left that are free, all the guns pointing at an ocean are going to do us no good. Look at the trade we do with other nations, figure out who is gonna get hammered, and take away the goods they send us. Also, take away the profit and jobs from the goods we send to them.

 

So tell me now, WHO IS GONNA WIN!!!!!!!!!!

 

RON PAUL IS UNELECTABLE, and I would vote for Obama before I let DOCTOR RON PAUL destroy the past improvements, or the future hope we have by throwing it away on blaming ourselves foreign policy idiocy.

 

YOU WILL AFFORD IT, or you will be lost.........and so will your children, and they will thank you very much!

 

You no need ask me, ask the followers of NEVILLE CHAMBERLAIN!

[fmccap]

 

We can't afford it?

 

I bet we can, cause when someone is knocking on an allies door, they will pay our way, but we can't respond unless we are there in the 1st place. You see, I am not an advocate of us paying to keep everyone free, I am just an advocate of insuring that WE CAN keep the world free; because everyone must understand one sad truth---------->Those that are not free will band against those who are. If we are one of a few nations left that are free, all the guns pointing at an ocean are going to do us no good. Look at the trade we do with other nations, figure out who is gonna get hammered, and take away the goods they send us. Also, take away the profit and jobs from the goods we send to them.

 

So tell me now, WHO IS GONNA WIN!!!!!!!!!!

 

RON PAUL IS UNELECTABLE, and I would vote for Obama before I let DOCTOR RON PAUL destroy the past improvements, or the future hope we have by throwing it away on blaming ourselves foreign policy idiocy.

 

YOU WILL AFFORD IT, or you will be lost.........and so will your children, and they will thank you very much!

 

You no need ask me, ask the followers of NEVILLE CHAMBERLAIN!

Please tell me who currently "pays there way"? So somehow we are supposed to be all over the world all the time?

 

How about the current war drums in Iran. Do they really pose a threat to us? They don't have the capability to do anything to us. I believe it's just a very costly overreaction.

 

Does one ever wonder how things became what they are? You're the history guy, so they just hate us because were free, when did they start hating us?

 

P.S. Just wondering who your Republican pick is? How about Mitch Daniels if he gets in.

Edited January 26, 2012 by fmccap

[napfirst]

Please tell me who currently "pays there way"? So somehow we are supposed to be all over the world all the time?

 

How about the current war drums in Iran. Do they really pose a threat to us? They don't have the capability to do anything to us. I believe it's just a very costly overreaction.

 

Does one ever wonder how things became what they are? You're the history guy, so they just hate us because were free, when did they start hating us?

 

P.S. Just wondering who your Republican pick is? How about Mitch Daniels if he gets in.

 

Maybe we should have bought Seal Team 6 home and left this American to fend for herself!.....under Paul's definition of defending the US this would not have been possible....

[fmccap]

Maybe we should have bought Seal Team 6 home and left this American to fend for herself!.....under Paul's definition of defending the US this would not have been possible....

Wrong, another outright lie!

[fmccap]

 

RON PAUL IS UNELECTABLE, and I would vote for Obama before I let DOCTOR RON PAUL destroy the past improvements, or the future hope we have by throwing it away on blaming ourselves foreign policy idiocy.

 

One last thing, what future hope? You want to protect our interests "oil" the lifeblood of our economy while at the same time it's rotting from within. Who is the only candidate with a "real" plan to fix the economy and deficits? If those don't get fixed there is no hope!!!!

[Imawhosure]

We all agree then, that he panders to them. He does and i'm not happy with it. However i think that given the support he needs from them only in the election year that had the decision gone to 2013 and he was in office he would have okayed it. Just my thinking.

 

Why can't we also agree that Republicans pander to the industries regardless of their environmental or safety records? It's clear that they do.

 

But again i offer the compromise. Nebraska has shot down the original route. They are preparing to study the alternatives and then give their okay. Why not give the president 30 days from when the state says yes instead of giving Obama an arbitrary date?

 

That gives the state a chance to do its job and then Obama is left with no outs. Nebraska has rejected the one that crosses the aquifer, so he has little to lose by saying yes when they okay the new route.

 

 

I am for your suggestion as long as it is before the election. Republicans/Democrats both now have to show that they are about America, and not an agenda or just getting re-elected. Both republicans/democrats have to do this.

 

Just to let you know Daddy, I have only once in my life voted straight ticket. When it comes to local elections where the partys have much less control of how the members vote, I know there are just as many good democrats trying to fix things as republicans. If the track record is good, they get my vote. I always remember that if we were at war and I was in a foxhole, I sure as hell would rather have a republican/democrat next to me with a gun, then someone called Taliban.

 

And now back to DRP, AKA Dr Ron Paul! I would ask anyone here to just think about what I am asking, and Dr Pauls supporters will answer their own questions.

 

DRP supporters, what are wars almost always fought over? In case you didn't know, if it is not a woman, lolol, it is land, economics, or religion.

 

Now then DRP supporters, exactly where in the world is their a dispute over land, economics, AND religion? And, if that part of the world becomes more unstable, exactly how will that affect our economy? And considering this countrys economy is what keeps all of you (and most everyone else) happy, especially as long as you do not run out of sub pay!

 

So then, you DRP supporters can be critical of past policys in this region if you wish, and maybe you are correct in your assessment, but your change is to allow a bunch of people who downright hate all of us to be left to their own devices, while leaving at least loosely called allies blowing in the wind. Do you think you can threaten Iran by telling them we won't send anymore I-pods over there, lol.

 

Hey, did you DRP supporters know that Akmedinijhad or however you spell his name was one of the great people who took our people hostage after flipping our embassy when Carter was President? He did let them go you know, right? And why exactly was that? If you don't know, let me tell you------->because they knew Ronald Reagan would blow their ass up, just like he destroyed old Mommars Khadafhis palace and killed a wife or 2 when he got out of hand.

 

Now, you probably think the way I said that, I am happy he did all that and was feared just like Margaret Thatcher was. Well, I am happy he was feared, but I was disappointed that in that day and age, anyone had to be feared to keep bad stuff from happening.

 

DRP is a caracature of Neville Chamberlain, no more, no less. Imagine of DRP was in office when they put the missiles in Cuba instead of Kennedy! Imagine if DRP was President when Hussein invaded Kuwait! Imagine if DRP was President when the twin towers came down! If he would have been POTUS during any of these events, our country would be much, much different than it is today.

 

DRP wants to kiss all of those who want to be rid of us. And you guys say Obama and liberals are peaceniks who won't protect us? No matter how Obama spins it for his constituency, he had the balls to go get Bin Laden when he knew where he was, sent in the seals to get some of our people free, had them shoot some pirates on a boat to save our people, and bombed the shit out of ole Mo-mo to finally get rid of his ass permanently.

 

Yes, Obamas economic ideas suck big time, but there are worse things that can happen to a country than economics, just ask those who died in Europe or other wars. Think they or their familys gave a damn about economics when they seen the military at their door to tell them their husband, father, brother, or sister was dead?

 

Therefore, I stick with my statement that because of his foreign policy stance, DRP is below.......far, far, below even Mr Obama as a viable candidate to elect for President of These United States.

 

If having our troops stationed here with their guns pointed at the ocean was always in effect along with the way to go, Europe would be saying Heil Hitler, Hirohito would still be considered a god in Japan, Hussein would be in control of Kuwait and most of the surrounding areas, the USSR would still be viable, and there would still be missiles in Cuba.....probably partly pointed at Chicago Illinois.

 

Sorry, but I like that I don't have to worry about that crap and only have to worry about our corporations getting a fire under their rearends to hire people by the government changing policys. From my way of thinking, I want to keep that the worst of my worries.

 

By the way---------->Ford made 14 billion in the 4th quarter?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Congrats guys and gals. Have a long island ice tea on me!

[Edstock]

Akmedinijhad or however you spell his name AKA "I-need-a-dinner-jacket"

 

DRP is a caracature of Neville Chamberlain, no more, no less. You have a point, but IMHO, DRP's "perspective" is closer to that of Harding or Coolidge, and the America of their eras. No pejorative intended or implied.

[fmccap]

[napfirst]

YAY OBAMA. Another reason to vote for him. :happy feet:

 

 

"Surely you jest"!

[retro-man]

I have mixed feelings about this: On the one hand, I agree with the sentiment of the video, and with Ron Paul's position on this. On the other hand, I think it would be a vast improvement if the Chinese occupied Texas.

 

The basic weakness of the whole thing anyway, is that you would have to find enough Republicans capable of the kind of empathy that the film appeals to, to put Paul over the top. I believe the party base is constitutionally (in the physical, psychological, moral sense) incapable of that stretch of imagination.

[fmccap]

I have mixed feelings about this: On the one hand, I agree with the sentiment of the video, and with Ron Paul's position on this. On the other hand, I think it would be a vast improvement if the Chinese occupied Texas.

 

The basic weakness of the whole thing anyway, is that you would have to find enough Republicans capable of the kind of empathy that the film appeals to, to put Paul over the top. I believe the party base is constitutionally (in the physical, psychological, moral sense) incapable of that stretch of imagination.

The party has lost it's way. Sold out to special interests and big money, but you can say that for both parties.

[goinbroke2]

Remember the last time we had a President who gave us peace, full employment, and a budget surplus?

 

 

Yeah. They'll find something.

 

 

oh! yOU MEAN this GUY?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

 

Bill Clinton registers for the draft on September 08,1964, accepting all contractual conditions of registering for the draft. Selective Service Number is 326 46 228.

 

Bill Clinton classified 2-S on November 17, 1964.

 

Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on March 20, 1968.

 

Bill Clinton ordered to report for induction on July 28, 1969.

 

Bill Clinton refuses to report and is not inducted into the military.

 

Bill Clinton reclassified 1-D after enlisting in the United States Army Reserves on August 07, 1969, under authority of COL. E. Holmes.

 

Clinton signs enlistment papers and takes oath of enlistment.

 

Bill Clinton fails to report to his duty station at the University of Arkansas ROTC, September 1969.

 

Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on October 30, 1969, as enlistment with Army Reserves is revoked by Colonel E. Holmes and Clinton now AWOL and subject to arrest under Public Law 90-40 (2) (a). Registrants who have failed to report remain liable for induction.

 

Bill Clinton's birth date lottery number is 311, drawn December 1, 1969, but anyone who has already been ordered to report for induction is INELIGIBLE!

 

Bill Clinton runs for Congress (1974), while a fugitive from justice under Public Law 90-40.

 

Bill Clinton runs for Arkansas Attorney General (1976), while a fugitive from justice.

 

Bill Clinton receives pardon on January 21, 1977, from President Jimmy Carter.

 

Bill Clinton becomes the FIRST PARDONED FEDERAL FELON ever to serve as President of the United States.

 

All these facts come from Freedom of Information requests, public laws, and various books that have been published. None of these facts have been refuted by Clinton.

 

After the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, President Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

 

After the 1995 bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed five U.S.

Military personnel, Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

 

After the 1996 Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed 19 and injured 200 U.S. Military personnel, Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

 

After the 1998 bombing of U.S. Embassies in Africa, which killed 224 and injured 5,000, Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

 

After the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole, which killed 17 and injured 39 U.S. Sailors, Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

 

Maybe if Clinton had kept those promises, an estimated 3,000 people in New York and Washington, DC. Who are now dead, would be alive today.

 

THINK ABOUT IT! It is a strange turn of events. Hillary gets $8 Million for her forthcoming memoirs. Bill gets about $12 Million for his memoirs yet to be written. This from two people who spent 8 years being unable to recall anything about past events WHILE UNDER OATH!

 

YES HE WAS A FREAKING PRINCE WHO'S ONLY CRIME WAS GETTING CAUGHT WITH MONICA......NOT!

Edited January 30, 2012 by goinbroke2

[retro-man]

Oh fercrissakes check your facts. LINK Instead of just regurgitating whatever Hannity hands you.

 

From the Snopes article.

If Clinton had still been obligated to report for induction, his draft board could have got him any time they wanted - they certainly knew where to find him, yet no one ordered him to report to an induction center, no federal agents arrested him for draft evasion, and no MPs came and hauled him away for being AWOL, because he hadn't broken any laws, civil or military. Likewise, President Carter's executive order of 21 January 1977, which provided pardons and amnesty for those convicted or suspected of violating the Military Selective Service Act between 1964 and 1973 did not apply to Clinton because he committed no such violation.

 

The fact that there's so much of this pure garbage floating around out there only shows that the right is not concerned with the truth in the least, and will stoop to anything in their bullying sociopathic will to power - deliberately polluting the public discourse with libelous fiction. Shovel on the manure. What a bunch of liars. Reminds me of the saying "might makes [the] right". The Clinton impeachment was a joke and a waste of time, money, and attention.

Edited January 30, 2012 by retro-man

[Bored of Pisteon]

oh! yOU MEAN this GUY?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

 

Bill Clinton registers for the draft on September 08,1964, accepting all contractual conditions of registering for the draft. Selective Service Number is 326 46 228.

 

Bill Clinton classified 2-S on November 17, 1964.

 

Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on March 20, 1968.

 

Bill Clinton ordered to report for induction on July 28, 1969.

 

Bill Clinton refuses to report and is not inducted into the military.

 

Bill Clinton reclassified 1-D after enlisting in the United States Army Reserves on August 07, 1969, under authority of COL. E. Holmes.

 

Clinton signs enlistment papers and takes oath of enlistment.

 

Bill Clinton fails to report to his duty station at the University of Arkansas ROTC, September 1969.

 

Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on October 30, 1969, as enlistment with Army Reserves is revoked by Colonel E. Holmes and Clinton now AWOL and subject to arrest under Public Law 90-40 (2) (a). Registrants who have failed to report remain liable for induction.

 

Bill Clinton's birth date lottery number is 311, drawn December 1, 1969, but anyone who has already been ordered to report for induction is INELIGIBLE!

 

Bill Clinton runs for Congress (1974), while a fugitive from justice under Public Law 90-40.

 

Bill Clinton runs for Arkansas Attorney General (1976), while a fugitive from justice.

 

Bill Clinton receives pardon on January 21, 1977, from President Jimmy Carter.

 

Bill Clinton becomes the FIRST PARDONED FEDERAL FELON ever to serve as President of the United States.

 

All these facts come from Freedom of Information requests, public laws, and various books that have been published. None of these facts have been refuted by Clinton.

 

After the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, President Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

 

After the 1995 bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed five U.S.

Military personnel, Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

 

After the 1996 Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed 19 and injured 200 U.S. Military personnel, Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

 

After the 1998 bombing of U.S. Embassies in Africa, which killed 224 and injured 5,000, Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

 

After the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole, which killed 17 and injured 39 U.S. Sailors, Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

 

Maybe if Clinton had kept those promises, an estimated 3,000 people in New York and Washington, DC. Who are now dead, would be alive today.

 

THINK ABOUT IT! It is a strange turn of events. Hillary gets $8 Million for her forthcoming memoirs. Bill gets about $12 Million for his memoirs yet to be written. This from two people who spent 8 years being unable to recall anything about past events WHILE UNDER OATH!

 

YES HE WAS A FREAKING PRINCE WHO'S ONLY CRIME WAS GETTING CAUGHT WITH MONICA......NOT!

 

And that right there is why I refused to join the military right out of high school. With a guy like this as "Commander in Chief". Why should I? Same reason, why anybody would let Obama be their "Commander in Chief".

 

Here's a simple reason (my opinion) IF YOU DIDN'T SERVE IN THE MILITARY IN SOME CAPACITY, YOU SHOULD BE AUTOMATICALLY DISQUALIFIED TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT.

 

Military personnel are all over the world and have first hand knowledge of what goes on in these countries, and can deal with these crises that arise in these areas. It's pretty apparant that what's been going on lately around the world, you need someone with experience in foriegn affairs/policy to deal with this.

[fmccap]

Just saying.............

[Mark B. Morrow]

And that right there is why I refused to join the military right out of high school. With a guy like this as "Commander in Chief". Why should I? Same reason, why anybody would let Obama be their "Commander in Chief".

 

Here's a simple reason (my opinion) IF YOU DIDN'T SERVE IN THE MILITARY IN SOME CAPACITY, YOU SHOULD BE AUTOMATICALLY DISQUALIFIED TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT.

 

Military personnel are all over the world and have first hand knowledge of what goes on in these countries, and can deal with these crises that arise in these areas. It's pretty apparant that what's been going on lately around the world, you need someone with experience in foriegn affairs/policy to deal with this.

 

 

So I guess you won't be voting for Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich or Rick Santorum as none of them ever served in the military and are DISQUALIFIED by your definition. Mitt and Newt avoided service in Vietnam through deferments eventhough they both supported the war. Santorum and Obama came of age after the draft and did not volunteer.

[retro-man]

Do we have to eliminate those who never saw duty in a foreign country or during war/conflict? And do we eliminate people who've lived overseas but outside the military.

 

Compare W to Clinton. Who spent more time out of country? Clinton was a Rhodes Scholar and lived in England. Bush was national guard and never left the country.

 

And the right often uses Obama's childhood years in a foreign country as a point of contention against him as opposed to plus.

Withdrawn due to excessive and inappropriate use of sarcasm (but you can see it below in napfirst's stinging riposte).

Edited February 2, 2012 by retro-man

[napfirst]

You're missing the point. There are only 3 valid ways to experience a foreign country: 1.) As part of a battalion, 2.) As part of a carrier battle group, or 3.) in the red light district nearby the port or base. Anybody who experiences a foreign country any other way is not a real American, and therefore not qualified to be President.

 

Oh, and that whole concept in our government of the military having a Commander in Chief who is a civilian. That's hogwash too. We can dispense with that. What were the founding fathers thinking?

 

So you're equating someone serving their counrty , possibly dying in the process, as experiencing a foriegn country?...........how direspectful!...I should have expected no less.......sad

[retro-man]

So you're equating someone serving their counrty , possibly dying in the process, as experiencing a foriegn country?...........how direspectful!...I should have expected no less.......sad

"Military personnel are all over the world and have first hand knowledge of what goes on in these countries, and can deal with these crises that arise in these areas. It's pretty apparant that what's been going on lately around the world, you need someone with experience in foriegn affairs/policy to deal with this." ~ Bored of Pisteon

 

at the top of the page. Remember? All the way back yesterday?

 

I have expressed my view of our military many times before. I have nothing but respect, admiration, and gratitude for their service, their courage, and their sacrifice. I have friends and family members in the military - like most of you - some who have seen horrible things, an uncle who lost his life fighting for this country, so stifle your exaggerated indignation. My point is that military service does not automatically confer deep knowledge about other countries or the world in general - as Bored seems to feel it does - and that there are many other ways to gain this knowledge. Military service does not prevent one from knowing the world either - which my post may have implied, and for that I apologize. I let my sarcasm get away with me.