kyle

Interesting that they've already bought back only 2,666 of these vehicles at a cost of $47 million!!! This thing is going to haunt them for the next 5-10 years and I think they deserve it. Just a POS product that has pushed customer's away from ever buying the product ever again. https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/ford/2020/01/25/ford-fiesta-focus-transmission-settlement-deal/4554381002/

He just gave a positive review on the Outback:) I've seen probably 30-35 of his videos and actually like his perspective-he is brutally honest about the crappy infotainment systems out there and the skyrocketing cost of vehicles. I also appreciate the fact that he puts them up on a lift and goes over the mechanics of the suspension, etc. And I don't know anyone who is analyzing the audio systems to the extent he is doing-graphing things out, etc. -it is beyond my mindset, but he backs up those comments with facts-instead of most people opinions. And check out his Mustang-Camaro-Challenger videos from maybe 2 years ago-picks apart the Mustang where appropriate but that was his favorite of the 3 vehicles.

Watched that review last night and like his channel no matter what he talks about. Minor gripe, and I think he mentioned the new steering wheel's volume control switches being ass backward, other than that, I like most of the layout. I've not had a vehicle with a heads up display but these seem to be getting more and more common across the board.

Ya it just seems odd that after all these years, they would swap it. It makes the most sense to me being in the middle and I'm sure you would get used to it right away wherever it is. Drove a POS 2019 Rogue rental this week and their center stack only had average speed with real time speed. I flipped thru every screen I could think of and even reviewed the manual, but no luck-you only use the gauge and after being in cars with digital speedometers for the past 4-5 years, is a very hard thing to revert back to.

I've seen this on a few Ford's that are popping up with the full digital dash and also on a few other OEM's-thinking Hyundai? This makes no sense at all to me and can't understand the logic. Forever and ever, every speedometer has been on the right side, unless you are a performance car and now the moment they have a digital dash they move it to the left side. It is these little things to me and again, maybe most people will never care, but I'm not talking to the general public, but why do they do this? And again, i've seen this on a few other nameplates where they switch them up and i don't understand why?

Not sure what you are asking me? Sales may not suffer, but they may not come as easy as they have in the past and that will be reflected in product mix/rebates/fleet sales. And you are mostly correct, exterior styling gets someone in the door minor cheapness in a vehicle usually is not a deal breaker, but everyone today has a much nicer interior than what was acceptable 2-3 years ago. Well, maybe not Honda, but i'm sure they will up their game as some of their vehicles are updated.

Well the challenge is that key competitors in that segment are noticeably more upscale and a few have more distinctive styling (CrossTrex comes to mind). The interior to me in many new Ford's is really basic, functional, boring and I hate their center display between the speedo/rpm gauge. Just layout and fonts look/feel cheap. The funny thing, is everything I ding Ford for I feel completely opposite with regards to Lincoln. Almost feels like Ford is losing out at the conference table when sitting next to the Lincoln folks. I would tell you to stop by a Kia or Subaru dealer but if you are living in Mackinaw then the closest dealer for those might be in Gaylord?

I always love hearing how people spin things when they don't get a good review and CR loves Honda, Toyota, etc. The Escape is a mediocre product at best especially at $32k for a 3 cylinder motor. CR does not take into affect that it may have a $5k rebate, nor should they. Look a little lower and it shows the Honda Passport at the bottom of the midsize category and the Edge as the 2nd place finisher. Guess we can't take that ranking either!

Good for Ford and saw where the Aviator finished 2nd to the Telluride for SUV, which was another strong showing in a very competitive segment.

well I guess anything is possible With attorneys but we don’t know how this played out either. so many of these safety systems can be turned off with people not happy with their performance. I rented a brand new Optima this week and never used their adaptive cruise control or steering assist due to the way it functioned. I’ve heard Honda’s system is miserable and they literally have millions of vehicles on the roads quipped with their “safety sense.” Of course the insurance companies have deeper pockets than I do but that is why I have insurance. I would guess Ford believes they know better and that is why it’s programmed the way it is.

That is a stretch to say the least. Why would they give you an option to them off? The insurance companies are the ones taking the risk and know how the car is equipped. If they removed an airbag that would be one thing but not a setting option built into the vehicle. I’m not an attorney but I’m pretty sure you are not either?

What is equally concerning is that what goes for the Explorer also goes for the Aviator......so pissing off those buyers who’ve given Lincoln a chance sucks. I wonder if the Aviator buyers are getting a loaner?

I priced out an Explorer and it quickly got close to $50k and Still has what I feel is a ok interior compared to the others mentioned. while I like some of the things on the Explorer they just fucked this launch up every way they can.

The Explorer might be outselling them but Kia/Hyundai is limited in plant capacity and dealers. If you think the Explorer is the better product more power to you but to me it’s not even close. Haven’t read a car review in years but I watch YouTube and I’ve not seen one overly positive review of the Explorer. I sat in one a few weeks ago at Car rental drop off and it is uninspiring to me compared to the Koreans. have a good friend who is shopping for a new suv and he mentioned Land Rover, Audi and Jag that he really likes. Then he goes and says but “I really love that new Telluide.” So that alone tells me how strong that product is. Just disappointed that Ford didn’t “go further” I will be in the market next year and I don’t see me spending $50k on a Explorer when I can spend $37 for a Kia that is way more distinctive looking and has a superior interior. Plus I’m not into turbo charged engines when I can get a proven V6. that sucks for me since I would rather buy American and grew up in Michigan with a GM family-and I wouldn’t even consider a GM vehicle besides the new Vette.

I am disappointed to see this happen and even more so how it happens in today’s market is unacceptable. Maybe their sales are strong right now but I don’t see those premium prices holding up. This market is changing rapidly and I think Ford still thinks it 1995. You have new nameplates that weren’t in this market 2 years ago like the Atlas and Ascent. And then along comes the Koreans with the Telluride which is flying off the lots At full MSRP and winning damn near every head to head competition out there. Their products were brand new also and somehow managed to be a top safety pick.

Watching the reveal and pretty cool. Not a Ford badge in site?

Saw this last night and really enjoyed the movie. My wife who didn’t know anything about this story enjoyed it as well. Starts a little slow but kicks in after about 15 mins and the 2.6 hours flew by.

I'm looking forward to it and this is one of those vehicles that will get my attention. Hopefully they deliver the hype factor. One of the things I got to say, is that just on this post I have recognized a bunch of new names here and want to welcome them to the forum....let's not run them off to fast guys!!!!

So that will be in about 12-18 months! Why the hell would we wait that long, when somebody throws up a post that Tesla's doomed!!! LOL.....

The way I look at is that Tesla is really pushing the entire industry to create a better vehicle and think way outside of the box. They deserve a lot of credit, but also have a lot of challenges. Most of the things I've read about the 3 mention the paint quality but also like novanglus say it is best in class with driving dynamics. And I will give him credit, since novanglus at least has one and can comment from first hand experience. One thing to remember is this is Ford's first jump into this arena and I'm sure they will get better and grow the market. I actually like the way the vehicle looks and don't mind the minimalist interior-as long as it is up to standards for a $60k vehicle.

Well Ford better hope that is the case since that will cross a pretty hard line and one they have almost entirely avoided and that is why the DOJ wants to look at the info to make a decision either way.

Funny I really enjoy this guys channel!!!! He is definitely passionate and tells you his opinions but I like his perspective. He is not a Ford guy but has done some great reviews and praised a number of Fords. His new sidekick knows what he is also talking about and tones down his personality-and he is very much a Ford guy and balances the perspective. That is the beauty of YouTube-plenty of channels for us to enjoy what we want:)

You are absolutely right besides the Gladiator but it also gets pretty expensive. I've driven several and if i was willing to spend $45K for a Ranger or a Jeep, it would be a easy decision for me. But like you said, the market is driven more from a cost stand point than someone wanting to push the product to the next level. Ram will also be adding a mid-size truck and I would expect that offering to be very competitive. I agree with Savagegeese-go get an F150!

I saw that and thought what an ass! Such a typical response when someone does not like what you had to say. I love Savage Geese and think he has some of the best reviews out there. He just did one on a Mustang Bullett and it was fantastic-he praised it where it did well and was point on in the vehicle's shortcomings. The Ranger is an "ok" product in today's market and is obviously dated and should be judged accordingly. I don't fault Ford for bringing it to the market and actually like some of the things about the truck but expect the next effort to be greatly improved-until then, it is what it is.

My guess is with higher trim levels they are not de-contenting vehicles and want to take away that option from a dealer where all of a sudden they have these vehicles ordered and just sitting on a lot.