Stray Kat

With a crank mounted 1:1 oil pump you are over pumping oil sometimes by a lot. As rpm’s go up cavitation can be a problem.

I don’t know how true it is but I heard Robert Yates had some input on the LS cylinder heads.

What’s the deal with port injection and “bowl” pistons. Seems like those would be more in line with a DI system. It will be interesting to see the breakdown here.

I just watched a video that says the 6.8 has a forged crankshaft and the same 4.22” bore as the 7.3 with a shorter 3.68” stroke.

You utterly and completely missed my point.

Check it out man. Ford is building V8’s in 2022, that’s a blessing in itself. These engines are probably some of the last of their kind. I look at engines like someone might look at a lathe or a milling machine. An engine can survive and be revived for a hundred years. If an Achilles heel is built into something it’s a detriment for a looong time. This is especially true if the competition is not building in the same hurdle. The two main oil galley system on the 351 Cleveland just killed that engine’s reputation not because it didn’t work. It’s that there was no headroom built in on an engine that was capable of much more than it was delivered with in the cars it came in. I just want Ford to be the best. That’s all.

I don’t know what bowl shaped pistons are for but I’m not crazy about a cast crankshaft. Im sure it will be fine as an entry level engine but the outgoing 6.2 has a forged steel crank. Guys that bolt on blowers might find the limits on that crank.

Also 7Mary3 what makes you think the cylinder walls in a 7.3 aren’t thick?

You will see a 6.8 Godzilla

A couple things here. The block is made out of iron on the 6.8. I’m almost certain of that. Second, as I came to discover from a talk on TFL it is an actual fact that an electrified vehicle like a hybrid will be legal in post ICE California. For how long that’s another matter. See the thing is lots of F250’s and 350’s are sold for consumer use which would give Ford a huge incentive to offer an “electrified” Super Duty.

I bet one crisp dollar that the 6.8 will be coupled to a Powerboost system similar to the 3.5 Powerboost. I know I know you heard me pining for that combination in the Raptor R. No such luck. I can’t think of a more dynamite combination of a brawny V8 given the opportunity to get diesel like fuel mileage while at the same time becoming the ultimate work truck/over lander/ race car or toy hauler. What if? What if Ford gives us an F250/350 with all that capability? Not only that an electrified Super Duty will be able to skirt that California ban on ICE vehicle sales.

I don’t remember where I read it but on another forum someone claims to have been told by “someone in the know” that the 6.8 is a larger version of the 6.2 rather than a smaller version of the 7.3. That doesn’t make any sense at all but nothing makes any sense to me anymore nor am I ever surprised.

I doubt the 7.3 is getting canceled. It is already on the small side of a new wave of fuel agnostic engines coming for use in medium duty trucks. The Isuzu NPR is the baby with a 6.0 GM engine option. Ram is coming with a Cummins built gas/gaseous 6 banger pretty soon. The Cummins engine will probably be seen across the board up to certain GVW’s. I believe the Cummins engine will be larger in displacement than the 7.3. That 6.8 is for F250/350 and Class C RV’s I’ll bet. If Ford does a 6.8 hybrid with a ProPower onboard system in those vehicles they will simply own those categories. I was hoping the combination was going in the Raptor but alas no. Let’s hope Ford can find a way to do it on these.

I agree but would like to take it one step further. The 6.2 Raptor engine is everything the Mod needed and absolutely got zero interest from an enthusiast’s standpoint. I saw the video where Brian Wolfe gave the reasons why Ford detoured away from OHC’s. In some ways Ford sticking with the DOHC V8 and building them for the masses is one of their greatest achievements. Except for a couple Japanese DOHC V8’s there are very few affordable DOHC V8’s in the market. As a matter of fact one could argue that the Mod, Coyote and AJ-V8’s are some of the most technically leading V8’s available for the average person. Every one of those has been sterling and capable of mind blowing performance. With that ☝️said as a Ford performance enthusiast I am extremely happy Ford now has an offering that in my opinion supersedes the GM LS platform for every reason it is popular. My hope for the 6.8 was that it would be lighter with an alloy block and a more compact induction system. If Ford does introduce such a stablemate to the 7.3 and they keep it simple with port injection only then I think Ford could really put a period on the final heyday of the traditional pushrod American V8. I realize times are tough and sober minds must plan for the future but here we are right now with an opportunity to win a whole new generation of enthusiasts. Do we want to capture them? I think yes.

What’s new on this subject? Has anyone heard any news at all? September is S650 Mustang reveal month I know but will Ford “sweeten the pot” with a 6.8 V8 engine announcement? I heard some disturbing news the other day on another forum that three top Ford ICE engine dyno engineers were handed their walking papers. That’s very sad news indeed and I hope those guys get an opportunity to continue their careers in some other capacity. I’m really starting to think the 6.8 is not going to happen. The F150 Lightning is exceeding most expectations and I’m starting to see that EV may even be practical for 3/4 ton trucks sooner rather than later.