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After reading his posts you are right. I wonder if he has a definition of socialism? Anyhow he lacks a certain skill to understand, he just reply's based on the devils in his mind. Does he wear tin foil hats? I bet he watches Glen Beck.

1st let me state that I do believe in the United (as in union) States of America. So it will not start in Raleigh or even NC. As states rights tea partiers gain more control then the constitution will be challenged and possible another civil war, this time based on civil rights instead of slavery. So it depends how the states elect birthers and the gLEN bECKS of the world to feed them the small brained ideas of me, me, me and I, I, I, and crying mine, mine mine as my 2 year old does. If we continue on the path we are on now; eventually, when there is not enough for food, yea, the revolution will take place. The goal for the rich is always to have the gap as large as possible between themselves and the 'worthless folks who aren't so greedy that they will take advantage of others' without being so large as to create the revolution. Problem is the group is getting so large (2 to 5%) that the group will no longer be small enough to be controlled and the gap will grow and there will be mutiny.

That is why the price is going up now, the dems can not give us a true plan to move us from oil so the oil companies have nothing to fear. OPEC has no fear of the repubs so it will be profits, profits, profits. If you have any money invest in Halliburton, Exxon, Shell and BP. Yes, I'm in favor of a high gas tax, I don't cars what it is used for just so it stays in the good old USA.

Another law for the rich by the rich, no surprise. The gap between rich and middle class continues to grow. Soon it will be only rich and poor, the wealthy and the workers/slaves. Can the French Revolution be far away?

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20101223/OPINION03/12230323/1148/auto01/Review--2011-Ford-Explorer-designed-with-common-sense-engineering Common sense engineering

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Since this car does not work for you maybe a bicycle built for two:-) geeze, this car is a compact, what do you think? By the way, I'm 5'11" and never ride with the seat all the way back but if I did I would also be considerate of anyone in the back.

I'm retired with 2 sons living close and each has 2 children. Right now we need 3 vehicles if all are traveling together. I would certainly consider the C-Max except the low ride because I need more ride height in my next vehicle. We will probably have to look @ the Explorer if we get 3 rows. If I were younger I would certainly have this high on my list.

In North Carolina companies have to pay workers comp and most companies have had some type of 401K type of retirement with corp contributions.

One of the highest taxes on US companies versus other countries is government supported health care. You mention our neighbors to the north, they have basic free health care the companies don't have to pay.

I agree with you about law (have to) versus Grace (want to). First as a Christian I know I get better than I deserve and should want to (not have to) share that with other to show Christianity and Christ. Second is Christ paid the FULL price. Third I was not telling others how to live, I just pointed out that all of the conservative arguments were about ME and not US which I think is hypocritical, of which I am also guilty. This is how I try to live and was simply pointing out an observation. Fourth the concept of compassion and community is something of a higher order that is foundational of and for our constitution and country.

Would you please explain how this works, how they exist to feed the addiction of socialist government.

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In the state of NC you have to buy auto insurance in order to get a drivers license, what it the difference?

That is the problem, you think winning is something worth fighting for for you, I think winning is something that is good for all. D. W. A. R. F.

I voted for Ford before the market opened and I have also voted with my $$$ with stock and two Ford vehicles. I have made about $50,000 over the last year or so on Ford and I think I will make more over the next 3 to 4 years.

Have you watched the rates on Fed. bonds. It has been less than 1% for more than 2 years on 1 year bonds and if you think that will cause hyper-inflation you need to do some reading. DWARF

I don't have to prove him wrong, I simply refuse to watch or listen, for me it is a waste of time. If you choose to listen and buy his message I think that is great. If you buy his foods I think that is even better. I regret even spending my time reading this garbage, if he is right I will be shit out of luck, but I will not be led about by what I describe a raving lunatic leading paranoid people looking for the worst of and from.......

I'm with you blackhorse, just because someone says they have facts and research does not mean squat. Some people just want to be led. During the Y2K junk my mother-in-law believed all of the junk from Pat Robertson and still has stuff left that she bought. When someone says I'm a Christian and says I have all of this info means the same as anyone else says it. I am a Christian but I do not blindly follow anyone who claims the same. I look at the data and the facts and come to my own conclusion. Beck is a comedian who is saying anything to get folks to follow. SHEEP!!!!!!!!!!!

You are right, change or die and the only change Ford will make to the 150 to good for the future.

BP- gulf oil spill Ford - Pinto Toyota - floor mats Ford - cruise control Enron - Fastow Madoff - Ponzi That is what I used to think until the above

Marie Antoinette anyone? http://www.blueovalforums.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/shades.gif Can't make money selling widgets if no one makes widgets.

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I notice you did not answer the question. I am not saying he was and I probably don't think he was, but I reread the quote a couple of times and just had a question and wanted others thoughts. Now, with your reply which I appreciate causes me to wounder if Abe was? What about him?

I don't know that crucifixion is what the discussion is about. I believe the discusion is who should have their taxes increased to bring down the debt. I saw a recent article that stated that large companies are charging a higher rate for group insurance for the higher salaried employees, is that fair? Maybe another way to look at is you could simply give a raise to the lower payed employees to help cover the cost. It would be like saying that the higher payed employees would not make what they are without the lower payed employees. What do you think?