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ExplorerDude

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  1. This is actually the second time the P736 has been delayed. The first delay was never mentioned. It was originally set to come out in late 2026 as a MY2027. But it was pushed back to mid 2027 for MY2028, now it appears to be pushed back again to mid 2028 for MY2029. I don’t quite understand the reason for the delays. I heard it might be due to getting costs under control.
  2. An additional body style / configuration (4-door) plus a possible high end Lincoln variant would add volume (if approved).
  3. What really bothers me about the prices increases is just how tone deaf Ford has become. There was a time when Ford would cut the price by $1,000 or more when launching a new generation of a particular vehicle. Emphasizing the value and that it costs less. The price increases on the new Expedition and Navigator are just appalling. I knew it was coming but hoped that they had reconsidered pricing/positioning. I really think sales of those models will slow and they will then react by cutting them back. The equipment hasn’t changed that much to necessitate such high price increases. The Navigator went from $83,000 in change to $99,995. Insanity!
  4. Yeah unfortunately the Timberline trim level is being shelved for now. Tremor replaces it on both. A decision was made a year ago to do a Tremor instead. I have no idea why but that is what happened.
  5. It’s not illuminated, just excellent lighting done to highlight the new design.
  6. The Kuga replacement is the next generation of Ford’s other compact SUV, that’s not the Escape/Kuga. The next gen of this little icon is going global in 2027 from what I’ve heard. The CE1 based compact BEV SUV, is something different and will most likely (may or may not) use the Escape name. I hope it does use the Escape name though!
  7. It’s not that Ford doesn’t care about the Ranger, it’s just that the Bronco and it’s production takes priority. Little by little each month they are building more Rangers and selling more. The Ranger literally flat lined last year before the switchover to the 2024 redesign. Then the UAW shutdown hurt. It’s taking longer than it should but Ford has a target goal of selling about 85,000 Rangers a year moving forward. With the Maverick selling 125,000-150,000 a year.
  8. No one said Ford wasn’t replacing the Kuga. It will be replaced and not with an EV.
  9. It certainly had elements of the Explorer America concept but really it just looked like a natural evolution of the Explorer with some boxiness to it.
  10. This started as a Hackett project with a boxy authentic Explorer looking EV. It was attractive, futuristic and instantly recognizable as an Explorer which just happened to be an EV. This was started around 2019, pre-pandemic. This was due to be produced at Cuautitlan as a MY24 vehicle. Around the end of 2021, Farley change the entire program. Same platform, totally different top hat. This included a program code change as well. It went from boxy to very aero. I always thought it looked like a Polestar 3, a Tesla Model Y, a Tesla Model X, and a 1995 Taurus wagon mixed together. Horrid! This was then going to be produced in Ohio and then Oakville, then they didn’t know, to it finally being canceled. It was going to be a MY26 vehicle and then a MY28. I feel for the design and engineering teams who poured their heart and work into these things only for it to be canceled. Over 5 years of time and nothing came of it. Make no mistake, it’s best that this happened and this thing will not be mass produced or produced at all. Farley talks about authentic icons and passion products but this thing was far from that. It was an appliance on wheels.
  11. It was the ugliest Ford design in 50+ years! I’m so glad it has been shelved and canceled. I have no doubt it would have been a sales bomb if it did launch. And priced over $60,000 I believe it would have been an epic failure.
  12. Boom! There it is. https://www.autonews.com/manufacturing/ford-cancels-3-row-evs-delays-next-gen-electric-pickup
  13. There is supposedly another MCA for MY27. The previous, 5th gen Explorer went from 2011-2019. So it’s not completely out of the ordinary if this one lasts from 2020-2028. 9 years is a long time but they keep it just under a decade. Stretching these generations longer and longer out.
  14. The last I heard the next gen Explorer and Aviator will arrive for MY29 and will simply be a new top hat on the CD6 platform. However plans do change frequently so it’s possible it’s a different platform but unlikely.
  15. There are plans for “Lobo” versions of the Ranger and F-150 as well.
  16. I don’t think you understand the culture context of how things have shifted in the last 24 months within Ford. Yes, the company like any other has always emphasized revenue. But in the last 24 months, the desire for revenue has gone from normal business to turbocharged desperation. If we don’t get enough we are going out of business. Ford internally is in “survival mode” again.
  17. Spot on!! Right now internally the only thing being pushed is revenue, revenue, revenue. And when revenue isn’t enough it’s cut, cut, cut. What’s most concerning is how Bill Ford, who has seen all of the ups and downs as well as what works and what doesn’t work over the years but has not yet made any meaningful changes to prevent the Finance Dept from making so many short sighted moves. For example, they will change suppliers on a part just to save 5 cents on any given part. Doesn’t mean that new part is the same or better. It’s about cost, not quality and that’s where the problems happen. Farley’s days are numbered and I believe we may see Kumar promoted to CEO in less than 12 months. Kumar is an engineer at heart (like Mulally) and just has a better approach to things. Farley, while brilliant sometimes just is too much visionary and not enough of the nuts and bolts to get it done.
  18. I believe 1 is BOF and is actually based on the next gen F-150 EV but it is completely different. Rumors are this is the F-200. The other is unclear. It could be BOF but I believe this is more of a unibody Van based vehicle. They are serious about Ford Pro and the products it will have especially since this part of FMC’s business is booming.
  19. There are two other Ford Pro “white space” commercial vehicles in development that will be built at the Dearborn EVC and the OHAP EVC. The next gent F-150 EV “Lightning” is going to BOC.
  20. You read my mind! Yes, I think the Super Duty being added to OAP is also a “response” to the toxic UAW negotiations last year and the KTP being the first plant to go down on strike. That hurt Ford badly being the company’s single most profitable plant in the world. Ford had prioritized F-Series production to be exclusively in the US for a long time. I think Bill Ford and Farley felt personally burned by the UAW’s tactic to go after that plant first and this decision was a direct reflection of that. But the UAW can’t really complain as the added Super Duty production is going to Canada to a Unifor plant and not to a spot in Mexico. Ultimately Ford wins on multiple fronts here and so does OAP.
  21. This is phenomenal news!!! Congrats to the OAP team! Your workforce was too good to sit idle for 3.5 years. And adding Super Duty production is a great way to expand F-Series sales, getting it closer to that 1 million a year sales goal (one day). Yes, the 3 row EVs look to be going to the Cuatitlan plant. Which is where they were originally supposed be built before their major design / program changes. It does make me wonder why they didn’t just keep Super Duty production entirely at KTP and not move Expedition and Navigator to OAP.
  22. Very true but Ford wastes money on countless things without batting an eye. Take Michigan Central, a very noble cause to buy and renovate such a historic building to help rebuild a community but at nearly $1 billion total, Ford does not spend wisely on anything. $70,000 on a Cadillac to benchmark is nothing.
  23. In this case that won’t be possible as the glass now covers the c-pillar.
  24. Yeah I too was disappointed to see that they “blacked out” the body color c-pillar. That was a Ford SUV heritage design cue which every Explorer has had, every Expedition (up until 2025) has had, the Excursion had, and the first 2 generations of the Escape had as well. I get that it’s hard to make a model look different from generation to generation if that always stays the same but it was definitely an important design cue. Unfortunately nothing lasts forever.
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