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Your A little late my friend!

He did wait them out read the bill ....it is basical a out of court pre packaged bankruptcy

GM must reduce debt by 67% by march 31. No job bank and UAW MUST take same work rules and same pay as Toyota by dec 31 09 ! Basicly this is a out of court pre packaged bankruptcy.. BUT Obama can change the rules when he is sworn in :happy feet: :happy feet: Basicly BUSH CAVED in, he had NO choice, everyone knows damn well these stipulations are gonna change next month..... Hey SOUTHERNERS as SHAQ would say " tell ME how my ASS TASTE" :happy feet: :happy feet:

Mulally could work for free and it wont help ford 1 bit!! We all know whats gonna happen! it sucks but its gonna happen if Bush gets his way!!

I was right Bush is gonna give them the cash to go bankrupt..... merry christmas He will give Ford an ultimatum. either go with GM to bankruptcy or u get nothing in the future!! It will be in the provision of the loans.. Only thing is Obama could break that part but make no mistake Ford will get the same cuts that GM takes u can bet your ass on that!!!!!!

exactly! Cerberus doesnt give a shit if they make another car.... Ford does....Cerberus buys financials like GMAC and they wanted Chrysler financial so bad that they bought the whole company and took all of the cash it had and hoarded it,and now they ran that company into the ground.... Again name 1 good car they have in the pipeline...NONE They want $7 bills to cover what they paid for it. Hedge funds are what fucked up the stocj market and our ecomony, they wanted quick returns and now they get what they sewed..... The govt should just take Chrysler from them and sell it because those jokers do not know anything about the car business....

Chrysler is a PRIVATE company.. there is a big difference here..... There owned by a hedge fund worth HUNDREDS of BILLIONS od dollars..... They got the cash to fund it its just that they know its a loosing entity so they dont want to invest anymore in it they would rather go bankrupt then put more cash in it. They bought it for 7% of there funds cash for $7 billion. Meaning there fund was worth over $100 billion.. They bought GMAC also. The only way they could get the Chrysler financial was to buy the whole company now there stuck!! Private companies keep ALL the profit and they dont have to show there books like GM does.. It would be like if ford had $90 billion in the bank and then not put anymore cash into Lincoln/Mercury and then asking the govt to help Lincoln/Mercury only. Thats what Cerberus is doing.......

WRONG.. go look at Chryslers lot and tell me which car is better then fords models........ There lineup does not compete well with ford or GM/Toyota ect..... F150 or Ram?................. f150 wins Mustang or Charger??.......please we know the answer Evan or dodge van............Ford wins Cherokee or Explorer........Ford wins Durango or Expedition ......ford Escape or Liberty...............ford Caravan is the only good thing they have over ford, or GM for that matter.

They are FOREIGN companies paying taxes to Germany and Japan not the USA........... Maybe them workers should stop bending over and demand at least $28 an hour with good benefits and stop letting these companies come here and fucking up americas pay scale.... They wont and dont deserve SHIT from the US tax payers.... Make those companies first change to American companies paying american corporate taxes then maybe!!!

They got LOTS of cash. I say let them match what the govt gives them or they should get nothing....

If its Jack Welch I say NO DEAL, he hates unions to the core! Someone like Robert Reich, Bob Rubin not Welch. He is Cavuto's buddy.

GM said they are not in any way talking to Chrysler. All that talk was a rumor go read GM's official statement.

Its looking like Bush is waiting them out! He will wait too long then say sorry bankruptcy is your only option!!!

Bill Ford is very smart. He drives rivals cars to see what they got. He also admitted it because he has driven those cars and if he would of said no then we all know some reporter would post a picture of him driving a GM or Toyota and then you got a scandal. Billy didnt fall for that one!

This aint shit!!!YET!!!! If GM goes belly up I'd bet all foreign cars in Michigan will get vandalized and people driving them will need some added security also!!!!

U R out of line punk!!! I got 5 kids u jackass Y would u wish that on J??

Corker is correct though!! We need to drop our wages to equal Toyota. If Ford cannot make a profit then eventually they will go under. And having more bailouts will turn the American buyers away from the big 3 giving some now would allow Ford to sell more cars and increase our public relaltions and provide us with a job for years to come. think about it!!!!!! We are loosing the PR battle. And theres NO guarantee Obama will give us countless bailouts..

The US I4 is going to brook parks plant #1........

Yes they did What part of having the same WORK RULES dont u understand?? U think Toyota lets people blowoff 9 days before there given a month off?? NO try 4 days and your terminated!!

hold off on your praises to the burning bush!! He has stated several times that "we need to prevent a DISORDERLY bankruptcy"". Is he looking at a prepackaged bankruptcy for GM and Chrysler or just GM? Anyone who thinks he wants to save the UAW is just crazy. He is gonna use this as leverage to get the colunbia free trade deal or maybe some tax cuts for the rich. I think he is going to wait it out and call GM/Chryslers bluff! Maybe there not close to bankruptcy, maybe they can make it to March with no loan $$. We all know that the companies want that deal that limits our pay!! If Bush gives them the same deal that corker did the company will take it if thay really need the cash that bad! go read Lebeau's article on cnbc com

Im sure Daddy Bush has a say in this also.. Cerberus owns Chrysler and GMAC. And who is one of the top men at Cerberus?? Dan Quayle! Bush will take care of his rich friends again. Carberus has alot of former republicans at the head of it.Thats to our advantage.

This was there last best chance to get rid of the dreaded anti american middle class UAW!! Shelby and Corker are on TV crying like a couple of babies. Now they are blaming BUSH . Shelby said he had a "wink wink" deal with Pelosi that if the vote failed he would use TARP!! Corker says the UAW or as he says the UA DOUB YA knew that Bush would use TARP because Bush is leaving town and he did not want this on his LEGACY!! BINGO thats it!! All Presidents want a good legacy. Either way they lost and now we are gonna go down there and unionize A transplant. Why the hell should they be allowed to pay the workers in Hot ass Alabama $14 an hour and get stste tax money equaling $186K per worker. Thats total BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mr. Shelly and MR crooker all I gotta say is WAH WAH WAH George DUB YA screwed us BOO Who :happy feet: :happy feet: Pay back is coming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wait and see if any of the STIMULUS work goes to those states NOT MUCH is headed your way!! Democrats cant win those states anyway. Battle ground states will get most of the infastructure money :happy feet: Can you say Ohio,Indiana,Penn., Minnesota,Wisconsin,Missouri, Virginia,NC, Louisiana, Florida. NONE FOR TENN. or ALABAMA leave the union and pay for them yourselves!! Maybe the transplants will kick in some $$$$ like they did after the hurricane and 911

Ron G said they did have a deal though. I was right about that. After the deal the 3 union busters killed it! But they did have a deal and they expected it to pass. And yes after watching Ron G. I'd say he has our back!!

Corker is not the problem here you heard ron G. They had a deal its the other repubs whp killed the bill. Shelby, the guy from Nevada and mr. right wing church man from S.C. Demint. Unions will rule the day very shortly!! :happy feet: Tell the south were coming!!!!!They will finally get a fair days pay for a fair days work. Alabama is VERY HOT I dont see how those auto workers can work in that heat for $14 an hour and $21 an hour top pay. You know them jobs down there are overloaded!!!!!!