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You never answered my question. What was your previous vehicle (specifically) and what mileage were you getting?

Well there you go. Much ado about nothing.

These vehicles aren't parked in a parking lot where you can just go get whichever car you want whenever you want it. They pack these things in to the point that you can only get to the first row. When they do this at the plant for launch they have to fix them last in first out for just that reason. You're severely underestimating the logistical difficulties here. And they can give you a window - somewhere between 2 and 12 weeks. Happy now? Of course not. The answer - as I've already stated and so has Ford apparently - is to just reorder any retail orders so the clients aren't stuck in a waiting game. If your dealer isn't doing that for you then shame on them.

2.0L EB w/manual. Fusion ST. Count on it.

Because this is totally new technology and totally new processes for automobile mfrs. It would be like Apple deciding to build a car. There is a huge learning curve. Remember how bad iDrive was when it first debuted?

Those prices don't include subsidized leases or if they do they only reflect the capitalized cost of the vehicle and don't take into account subsidized lease payments or higher than normal residuals. I wasn't specifically calling the Malibu crappy - that was a generalization. But if you're leasing a vehicle that costs $4K more than another car for less money with similar resale values then you either have a vehicle that nobody wants to buy or you're producing way more vehicles than the public wants to buy at normal prices. There is no other explanation.

Part of it is damage control, but consider this. If you had a warehouse full of 30,000 vehicle parts that were waiting to be fixed before being shipped out and each one had a unique serial number and it was going to take weeks to get them all fixed - do you honestly think you'd be able to tell every customer who had a unique serial number exactly when that part would be fixed and shipped out? No way. You may know how many you can fix each week and approximately how long it will take to get them all fixed but there is no way you can know exactly when each and every individual part will actually be fixed and shipped out. Ford said only 100 retail orders were affected. Not sure if that's accurate or not. But again - given a sea of 30000 vehicles how would you find those 100? I believe Ford instructed dealers to reorder customer vehicles to avoid longer waits. That's the answer here whether Ford told them to do it or the dealer just did it on their own.

And they're probably offering those leases to customers with 480 credit scores. GM just can't bring themselves to stop overproducing crappy cars that nobody wants to buy at regular prices.

The question is would Ford have been better off with an Escape hybrid but no C-Max or with C-Max but no Escape hybrid? Looking at C-max and Escape early sales figures I think the answer is really clear. And the C-max is bringing in Ford customers that never would have considered a Ford much less a Ford Escape.

This has nothing to do with tracking. They know exactly where each vehicle is. The problem is they don't know when they will get to a specific vehicle to affect repairs. This isn't an assembly line where things are produced in a specific order with a known process. This is all ad-hoc. Nobody knows when a specific vehicle will be fixed and shipped out until it's done. As for knowing where things are while they're being shipped - Fedex and UPS use their own transportation so their employees can scan bar codes on a package in their facilities and on their trucks and planes and they know everything about that package. How is Ford supposed to do that when they hand the car over to privately owned trains and trucks for delivery? Yes, Ford and all car mfrs should improve their tracking for end customers. But it's not as easy as you think it is.

My my how quickly they forget.

Why hasn't your dealer simply placed a new order for you? There is no reason you have to be stuck with that specific vehicle or wait that long.

And they can put hybrid drivertrains in mainstream vehicles like Escape and Fusion. It's just not as big of a priority as C-Max. If you can only build a limited number of hybrids then it makes sense to go after the higher volume higher profile versions first and do the other vehicles later.

You start with a parking lot full of 30K vehicles needing to be shipped elsewhere and repaired, then take one VIN number and figure out when that specific vehicle will be fixed. I don't see how any company could give an accurate answer under those circumstances.

No, their reasoning was that more people would buy a hybrid that was instantly recognizable as a hybrid (like the Prius). And so far that's proving absolutely correct with C-Max sales set to at least double the best year of Escape hybrid sales (21K).

This certainly didn't hurt sales......

Does your Escape have AWD?

The only reason Ford listens to CR is because they are influential with their readers who are potential Ford customers. It doesn't matter whether they're right or wrong or fair or unfair.

No, Hyundai got killed because their testing was flawed and didn't match the EPA standards. Not because owners got different real world results. What vehicle did you have before (specifically - make/model/engine/transmission) and what type of mileage did you get?

There you go making stuff up again. Please provide a source for this "fact". The EPA test is the EPA test. It is virtually impossible to design a car so that it does well on the EPA test but not in real world driving. Anything you would do to help the EPA test would also help real world mpg. Prius buyers buy them for mpg so they're going to drive them for max mpg and most probably hypermile. It is concerning if a lot of buyers are not getting the advertised mpg but geez - you're dealing with a brand new vehicle and a very very small sample size in comparison. And you know nothing about how these drivers are driving these vehicles. If you're not driving for maximum fuel economy then you won't see 47 mpg no matter what. Don't forget it's cold in the North and that will kill fuel economy. So ALL 2013 Fusion hybrid reports are coming from cold weather whereas the others have at least an entire year to average out. It's way too early to speculate. Wait until next summer at least.

They know. Or they can find out. They're either too lazy to look or they're hiding the answer.

I've owned several manuals but I don't want one for a daily driver. But if I get a weekend sports car it will most definitely be a manual.

......that nobody would ever read. Never. Ever.

But my point was if it worked for Sync in 2008 then the MAP profile was already implemented and working, so unless there was a bug in MFT then it's all on the device to use the right profile.

That appears to be the same one I posted above. Did you find differences?