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Not if the deposits are refundable. A refundable deposit means nothing. They can get their money back at any time. There is zero commitment when a refundable deposit is made. Their deposit system is purely interest free loans from consumers to continue running their business in the red. You would be a great Marketing/PR spokesman for Tesla the way you constantly try to spin them in such a fantastic well operated company.

So how does the $2,500 deposits for the Model Y and the $100 deposit (250,000 reservations) at a $25 million. I cant stand his business model of let take deposits years in advance so we can play with people's money. If every single vehicle that is made is sold (questionable), then why do they need a deposit years in advance?

3 minutes faster than the chevy.. that's crazy!!

Starting Feb 1st, all 2020s will get free maintenance for 3yr/36k. They are really stepping their game up. Granted now with the Ford pass points you get, it covers the first 3 services too so Ford is pretty on par with this. https://www.yahoo.com/autos/hyundai-expands-warranty-coverage-add-140000484.html

Could you lose $10,000 a month for 11 years? Exactly.

There are no plans currently but they will be happy to take a deposit for it now to hold your spot.

Yes you can buy a used ESP with your mileage. My contact will sell it at dealer cost to you. See the sticky st the top of the forum. You can go with more coverage then powertrain if you want. Used coverage is 12month/12k intervals and you can get up to 6yr/75k (I know I said 12k intervals but for some reason they go to 75k). Also, used plans start at the time you buy it, so if you bought a 5yr/60k today, the 5yr/60k starts today.

Yes because Mr. Savage Geese knows exactly what Ford is/was thinking. His comments are 100% his opinion and not fact. And some of his opinions were straight out wrong (based on facts that prove such). I will say, he was right in regards to some of what he said (I should say, I feel the same way). I will also say that he said many times that he really likes the Explorer.

Ford should allow the last setting to stay so we dont have to keep hitting the 3 buttons everytime. It should be full with taking up 2/3s of the top and then the radar sensors taking up the bottom 1/3.

Yes, we are all complaining about the 10.1 layout. Just a disaster for screen utilization.

Anybody can be "so far ahead" of somebody else when they burn through so much cash they can never make an annual profit. 11 years of losses.. but hey they are so far ahead of everybody else.

https://www.yahoo.com/autos/yikes-someone-stole-wheels-off-155100898.html Hahahahahaha

And doesnt turn a profit.. so what does that tell you and how much value is there when it is always red? Oh, Toyota made $17 billion net for last fiscal year... yes, look out Toyota!!!

I forgot the 2 recalls.. make it 15 items.

Yes it does, it has a Denali badge.... (insert eyeroll).

So created my list for my 1st service visit and have 13 items. They are going to love me.

Nope, nobody has been able to get it fixed. I believe 1 had the mirror replaced and it wasnt that because it still did it.

They don't have any spare tents to use.

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/tesla-registrations-california-nearly-halves-010526006.html "The report released on Wednesday showed registrations in California, a bellwether market for the electric-car maker, plummeted 46.5% to 13,584 in the quarter ended December 2019, from 25,402 in the same period a year earlier. Model 3 registrations, which accounted for about three-fourth of the total, halved to 10,694. Tesla did not immediately respond to a Reuters request for comment. "One can assume that Tesla has hit peak performance in the U.S. because they have not exceeded their 2018 results for five months now," said Shane Marcum, vice-president of Cross-Sell"

Nothing is making sense of this. Even if this was a rolling change and they added it later on in the production, yours which is an Oct build has it and someone on the Explorer forum who has a November build does NOT have it.

I love this pic of it.

Yup and we have had reports from members (2 or 3) that upon startup and applying the brake and then shifting to reverse, the vehicle starts reversing even though foot is on the brake. Took a full restart for it to respond properly to brake commands. One owner had the reverse sensing slam the brakes on due to cross traffic behind him even though he had his foot into it on the brake pedal. Pretty damn scary putting your vehicle in reverse and then not being able to stop. Must be this ingenious idea of an electronic brake booster instead of hydraulic or vacuum.

Yet Ford sold over 3 million vehicles in 2019 and Tesla sold 367,000. Hardly the "past". PS - Ford is profitable every quarter as well.

Again, poor road performance is a part of every day life these days. The vehicles themselves should be designed to handle every day driving. THIS IS NOT ABUSE OR NEGLIGENCE. SUVs that are promoted to be off road vehicles should be handle to handle pot holes. And if something breaks, it should be covered. We are not talking about crashing or having an accident. And with that, I'd ask that we get back to the topic of 2020 issues rather than potholes.

Does your ST have the standard 20" wheels, Street Pack or Track Pack? I have the Street Pack and it doesn't have it. The 2 on the dealer lot I checked (I updated the Explorer thread with pictures) both had the standard 20" wheels. I checked 5 Explorer's on the lot, 2 STs, 1 Platinum, 1 XLT and 1 Limited. The two Explorers with the 2.3 had the rear piece installed. The 3 ST/Platinums with the 3.0 did not have it installed. Ford parts definitely shows it as being on there for the ST with the part number and cost. And now that we confirmed yours had it, shows that all these vehicles have missing parts.