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Andrew L

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  1. I will NEVER understand that move by Ford at the time. I remember I used to get MotorTrend all the time and they had an article comparing large sedans and they said the FiveHundred would have won if it wasn't for the anemic engine. I know the 3.5 wasn't ready but come on they were able to get more power out of the 3.0 with the LS at 232. Granted it was RWD but still. A couple years later the Fusion debuted with 221. Anything would have been better than 200. I think the most they ever got out of the 3.0 was 240.
  2. *Mercury sits in the corner crying*
  3. I bought a few shares when it was at 10 a share glad to see it going up
  4. TCCA actually I used to go to meets and events all the time with Taurus/Sable/SHO guys and kept in touch with a lot of them over the years but haven't seen them in person in a long time so it was awesome catching up and see what they are driving now etc. Plus we had a few good laughs over some of the ridiculous stuff that would happen at those meets. I am sad I never got to do one with the LLSOC or any Lincoln LS stuff.
  5. Some of you probably saw my thread from a while ago with my dealership experience so I won't go down that route again with you but this has been in the works for a while and finally found one that worked for me. While searching I asked on a Lincoln group on Facebook about the buying process trying to hunt down a 3.0T AWD and a lot of people suggested shipping a car nationally or flying to a dealership and driving it back. I wasn't really a fan of this idea but humored myself into looking. Lots of options came up then I decided to get bold and throw Black Label in the search term to see if that would get any hits. Only about 7 or 8 came up nationally and that's when I found the car I bought. It's a 2017 Black Label in the Vineyard theme which was exclusive to the MKZ in the Philly area. 18k miles and they wanted 28k which was below KBB value for a BL. I called the dealership spoke with a sales person told him what I was looking for and where I was located. He sent me about 30 close up and high resolution pics and 3 videos of a walk around showing everything working. He suggested a shipping company but the reviews were awful so I searched for a few on my own but quotes were coming back around 1000 to 1200. That's, when my g/f jumped in and said no we need to save money lets fly out and drive it back. She found flights on Spirit direct from Tampa to Philly for 30 bucks which was absolutely unreal. I ended up selling my 2013 MKZ on Carvana for a hair under 10k and let me just say Carvana is legit 10 mins in and out and the deal was done and money was instant. I used that money plus some extra as a down payment and was approved for .9% financing which is less than what Lincoln is advertising on their website of 1.9%. Granted I plan to have this paid off early payments are pretty low I can swing this easily. We got the deal done and drove home which took a lot longer than expected due to insane traffic on the VA/NC border which shut down 95 at midnight due to a massive crash. I also stopped in to see an old friend from a car club I hadn't seen in almost 10 years it was great catching up with him. Here is the car 2017 Lincoln MKZ Black Label 3.0T AWD 400 Horsepower 400 Torque Chroma Cabernet Exterior Merlot Venetian Star Interior Has every option minus the Technology pack which includes the safety driving features like self park, self braking, radar cruise control, and lane keep. I really didn't need those features so I was OK with passing on that. It has everything else I wanted like the LED headlights, the Revel Ultima system (which kicks serious ass), Heated/Cooled front seats and heated rear seats, a sunroof, and rain sensing wipers. This car was almost 60k new. It was sold in 2018 so I actually have another year of free maintenance and factory warranty on it till the CPO kicks in but I am thinking of extending it just to be safe. First wash you can see all the dead bugs on the front bumper: After, moved them into the garage as fast as possible because the pollen was really bad that day: Excuse the messy garage I am still working on it but thought this was a nice shot under the LED lights so you could really see the color: I know this car won't be everyone's cup of tea due to the color but I absolutely love the color inside and out and it's unique and not the same old white/tan/gray/black with white/tan/gray/black interior. I also cannot stress enough how awesome this engine is we averaged 28 MPG on the way back which surprised me I was thinking more like 24. We we used cruise control a lot and were setting it around 72 or 76 depending on area and there were a few times we had to kick it down.
  6. Yea been checking New England too since I have family up there can always have someone check it out for me if it's good. I called the dealership closest to me but they are tiny and the showroom is straight from the 70s wood paneling and such. I spoke the the sales manager and told him what I was looking for and he said he would put me on a list and call me as soon as one comes in off lease. Might take a while but at least I have an alternative if I am still striking out.
  7. Ive been searching on lincoln.com and autotrader.com but slim pickings in FL still looking though. Never purchased from another state or had one brought in from another state curious if anyone else has and how that process works
  8. Kind of a vent here but the buying process still sucks IMO. I have been on the hunt for a 3.0T AWD MKZ to replace my 2013 MKZ Hybrid. First one I looked at was a left over 2020 they wanted 45k with trade in for it which was way too high. I asked online in a Lincoln group about this and was basically attacked by sales people saying "just suck it up and buy it stop trying to haggle" and others saying that's an insane price to pay. The dealership also refused to come down on price on this one telling me "they know what they have" and "the car will sell itself". I looked today and it's still on their lot. I kept searching and a 2017 CPO popped up. I went to look at it and it had a few chips in the paint 3 in total one on the door handle and 2 on the rear bumper, the rear wheels had curb rash even though the car had self parking, and the rear panels on either side of the rear window on the panoramic roof were really badly sun damaged and they wanted 30k even. I asked the sales person about fixing those defects and he went to his manager and they said no problem but the chips would be touch up not a full repaint I told him that was fine I wasn't expecting a full repaint. We went back and forth first he offered me 8k on a trade in then 9k. I told him I had to think about it, I wasn't sold on the factory warranty being up in a few days and the CPO warranty only being good for 2 years essentially. We left and about a week past when the internet sales manager called me to tell me they lowered the price on it since it hadn't moved to 27k and asked if I was still interested I told him my feelings on the warranty and he looked it up and he apologized and said they made a mistake that the warranty was actually good into next year because the car was sold in 2018 so I actually had an additional year on both the factory and CPO warranty. I said this sounded good and made an appointment to go after work. I told him I was located about an hour and a half away he said no problem they were open till 8 and I could work with the same sales rep from last time. So I show up last night and my sales rep isn't there and the rep that helps me is giving off a bad vibe. I tell him about the defects and say you guys said you could fix that is that still on and he says well I don't know about that we will have to see typically we don't do stuff like that to used cars. He speaks to the sales manager who comes out and hands me a piece of paper that has the wrong price that I was told by the internet sales manager and they knocked the price of my car down to 7500 because of "additional miles". I work from home so I didn't even put on that many more since I was there last. I asked him about all of this and he corrected the sales price to 27k even and told me they will not fix any of the defects at all and that it's a 4 year old car and I need to get to reality about that. I told him I've bought CPOs in the past and so has my g/f and her parents and every single time we found defects in the paint or on the trim they fixed it for free and he said that doesn't happen there. When I told him how my sales rep from last week told me it would be fixed he said yea he can say that doesn't mean it will happen look we have no more room on this car to fix anything so it is what it is. I told him I drove out an hour and a half away and he wasted my time and left. Stuff like that really pisses me off... trust me I get it its a 4 year old car but its CPO and like I said above every single time I found something like that in my past cars the dealership ALWAYS made it right. I have no problem paying the right price for the right car but I am not going to overpay or buy something that has defects that won't be fixed. Also knocking 1500 off for an extremely small increase in mileage is ridiculous. I am still on the hunt though and looking it hasn't discouraged me completely but I just have to say I am envious of people who have great dealerships who take care of them and don't pull BS like this.
  9. Here is the teaser from Lincoln on Facebook. Don't expect much from the outside.
  10. Yes BUT they were able to keep a full pass through which most if not all other hybrid sedans lacked. That was the big thing that won me over on my MKZ Hybrid to other sedans out there.
  11. I am really curious how they will handle the Navigator's dash now. Hope it is not just the same dash with a larger screen. Hope they integrate it better.
  12. Figured you guys would get a kick out of some of these. I did a big project going through my parents VHS tapes they had a disgusting amount (90 alone were home movies such as family get togethers and holidays) and I learned a lot about the process. Anyway my next project was going through the tapes and archiving some old car commercials cause 'why not?' thought it would be fun. I have gone through a stack and this is what I found so far, I still have a lot of tapes to go through. I tried not to upload duplicates that were already on youtube but I've noticed lately that youtube searching is acting weird and I am getting results for stuff not even close to what I am searching so hopefully I didn't upload any duplicates... Anyway, hope you guys enjoy and happy Friday! Gotta love some of the features they plugged or the insane financing GM: 1989 Chevy K2500 1989 Chevy Corsica 1998 GMC Sonoma 1998 Cadillac STS 2004 Chevy Cavalier Ford: 1984 Mercury Topaz 1986 Ford Lineup 1990 Mercury Sable 1990 Mercury Topaz 1998 Ford F-150 Chrysler: 1998 Dodge Ram 2004 Chrysler 300 Jeep Grand Cherokee Toyota: 1991 Lexus LS400 1991 Toyota Trucks 1998 Toyota Camry Nissan: 1984 Nissan 200SX 1984 Nissan Truck Subaru: 1990 Subaru Legacy Mitsubishi: 1991 Mitsubishi Lineup Suzuki: 1989 Suzuki Sidekick 1991 Suzuki Sidekick Hyundai: 1991 Hyundai Scoupe
  13. Reason I am asking is my g/fs father has a 2019 and he wants to get rain guards on the windows and every website says they only sell them for the extended cab and he has a regular cab (2 doors with 2 suicide doors) I can't imagine Ford made 2 different doors but want to be sure before I order a set for him.
  14. Probably should have clarified I was looking for Fusion and MKZ Hybrids but youre right. I know the gas models don't have those doors in the trunk cause the regular battery is up front in the engine bay where in the hybrids its in the trunk.
  15. Yea that's what this dealer told me. I can try a Ford dealer I imagine the Fusion Hybrid has the same parts. The 2 other Lincoln dealers in my area are kind of lousy. Their service/parts departments leave a LOT to be desired compared to other dealerships.