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Wow! $150 for a fill up and 20MPG in ideal driving....I certainly don't miss the days of gas. I took a screenshot of my longest charging session so far with the Lightning to charge it up from from 27% to 100%. The charging station delivered 98.77kwh of electricity to the truck and contrary to the $14.82 calculated by the Chargepoint app (which doesn't apply the TOU rates) the actual cost to me would be $8.10 because I charged it overnight and the TOU off peak rate for in Ontario is $0.082/kWh. Even in worst case scenario if I charged it during the highest daytime peak rate at $0.17/kWh it would have cost $16.79.

Couldn't agree more it is definitely a beast, whether towing or not! And even though the Lightning may lose half its range when towing, this is no different than my experience with my 2020 Aviator GT which also loses a substantial amount of its gas range while towing (I never actually calculated how much, but I would say 40-50% would be close). I've talked to many people that tow trailers with ICE vehicles and when I mention the Lightning and towing somehow a comment always comes up that it will never be practical for towing because it loses too much range, and my rebuttal is always the same: does your ICE truck get better mileage while towing? Of course not! The only advantage ICE has for now is the speed/convenience of refueling quickly especially if you are traveling a long distance, but as EV charging infrastructure and battery technology improves that will become less of an issue. Tom Moloughney from State of Charge and Inside EV's did a great interview with Darren Palmer at Ford (linked below) fast forward to about the 11 minute mark for the discussion about towing.

Well I finally had my first towing experience with the F-150 Lightning this weekend. I pulled my boat out of the water and then hauled if from my cottage up on Georgian Bay down to Toronto which is a one way trip of about 136km and pretty much 90% highway driving. I tried my best to document the experience and all the starting/ending variables and took some photos which are shared below. I charged the truck up the night before I left to 100% SOC and got a range estimate of 408km in the morning which I'm guessing was quite low because I'd been doing mainly highway driving the day before and it got quite cold at night to about 8C. After hooking up the trailer I was prompted to enter all the trailer details into the touchscreen, which I did, and are listed below: Length: About 25ft (from tongue to tip of outboard motor) Width: 102" Weight: 3500lbs (3,494lbs is the combined boat & trailer weight according to Tracker specs) Once I entered the trailer details a prompt came up on the gauge screen and it immediately cut the range down to 249km. A few minutes after departing another random message popped up saying it revised the range due to the external temperature and the range strangely increased to 255km. For the entire trip I had the climate control turned off to conserve battery power and just used the heated seat and steering wheel to stay comfortable. I tried my best to keep a constant speed of 110km/h although I did exceed that several times to pass a few cars and big rigs on the highway. When I got to my destination the final SOC was 42% and the range remaining was 102km. I then disconnected the trailer and it revised the range up to 156km. See photo below of the trip stats from the energy consumption screen showing the average energy consumption was 1.8km/kwh. (my usual energy consumption averages between 3.2-4.5km/kwh) The same trip (without towing the boat) would normally consume about 30% of the battery so with towing the energy consumption was about 58% so it is effectively double. Overall the driving experience while towing was phenomenal, the truck has no issues pulling the trailer at all or getting up to highway speed. If you didn't actually look at your mirror and see a trailer behind you, you would likely forget you are towing anything. I had it in Tow/Haul mode the whole way and my only complaint was that the regen braking seemed quite low in this mode compared to Sport mode (which I normally drive in) and that has very strong regen braking. I really wish Ford would give an option to independently adjust the regen braking settings regardless of what drive mode you're in. It is definitely a great truck for towing, as long as you don't have to go a particularly long distance otherwise you will be stopping to charge often, which for some I imagine would be a major obstacle.

Yes I do the same thing here in Toronto. We've had TOU electricity pricing for many years and it is great for EV charging at night because the rates are almost half from 7pm to 7am from the daytime peak rate. To charge up one of our Mach-Es from 30% - 90% SOC overnight costs like $4.80 whereas if I charge it up at work during the day at the peak rate the same charging session would cost about $8.50. The key to tackling the rise in the number of EVs in the future being connected to the grid is load management. You don't need to plug in and start charging your EV the minute you get home from work at 5:30pm when there is peak demand on the grid from A/C usage and cooking. Most EVs and/or EVSEs (charging stations) have software built in that schedule and defer charging times to off peak hours overnight which will both cost less to the consumer (if they have TOU utility pricing) and shift demand on the grid to off peak hours when there is more capacity is available. Will there be a need for upgrades to utility infrastructure in the future, absolutely, but it is certainly not solely attributable to the increasing number of EVs on the road now and coming in the future.

As a new proud owner of a new F-150 lightning, I was playing around with the Pro Power On Board this afternoon and just for fun decided to try charging two other EV's using the 240V outlet in the bed with an L14-30 adapter and the Ford mobile charger. It worked absolutely perfectly, I had my 2020 Aviator charging first and it went right up to its max charge rate of 16A within seconds and I let that run for 15 minutes and it didn't even drop the SOC on the Lighting it stayed at 62% in that time. Then I plugged in the 2022 Mach-E and that took about a minute to ramp up to the 30A max that the Lightning could provide and then held it there at max output. I left the Mach-E plugged in to the Lightning for 30 minutes and in that time the SOC on the Lightning dropped 2% from 62% to 60% and the SOC on the Mach-E went up from 39% to 43%. So for anyone in California that needs to charge their EVs and can't plug them into the grid during the Flex Alert period, as a last resort, they can find someone with an F-150 Lighting that has a relatively full battery and is willing to share some juice. I can confirm it works! Jim Farley did say at the press launch event for the Lightning that you can use it to charge other EVs, especially Teslas......

Well I think the F-150 Lightning makes a nice addition to our electric fleet. (see below) Just charged it up from 45% to 90% and it only cost about $5.05 worth of electricity, I don't even want to fathom what half a tank of gas would have cost to fill up a regular gas F-150....

Thanks rperez817! I couldn't agree more, Ford really has a winner on their hands here with the F-150 Lightning. It's too bad they are facing supply chain constraints and can't secure enough battery cells; if only they could scale up production fast enough to meet the incredible demand. My company works with a lot tradespeople and contractors and I've already shown the Lightning to two electricians and a plumber and they were all just drooling over all the features like the frunk and all the pro-power outlets. One of the electricians said he bought a Tesla Model X for his wife last year and was thinking of ordering a Cybertruck for himself but now changed his mind and is putting in a reservation for the F-150 tomorrow.

I have to update my previous post of current/past Ford vehicles to reflect recent new acquisitions to our company fleet, especially the new F-150 Lightning which just landed yesterday. Current owned/leased vehicles in bold. Also sharing a couple photos of the current Ford fleet below. 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning 2022 Ford Mustang Mach-E Premium (Dark Matter Grey) 2022 Ford Mustang Mach-E Premium (Shadow Black) 2020 Lincoln Aviator Grand Touring 2019 Ford Fusion Energi PHEV 2019 Lincoln Nautilus Reserve 2018 Ford Edge Titanium 2018 Ford Escape Titanium 2018 Ford Escape Titanium 2017 Lincoln MKX Reserve 2016 Lincoln MKX Reserve 2016 Ford Edge Titanium 2015 Lincoln MKZ Reserve 2014 Ford Fusion Titanium 2013 Ford Fusion Titanium 2013 Lincoln MKX Reserve 2013 Lincoln MKX Limited 2013 Lincoln MKX 2011 Lincoln MKX 2011 Lincoln MKX

It is so true! I was completely shocked and unprepared for how fast the F150 is! We also purchased two 2022 Mach-E's for our company fleet recently and I would have to say that the F-150 Lightning is faster than the Mach-E (at least perceptibly) right off the line. I took it on a brief test drive last night on the highway and I the massive torque launches you back in your seat and it got up to like 135km so fast it was scary because I was not expecting that from a 6000lb truck. Also the ride quality is astounding, I've ridden in other F-150's before and the Lightning blows them away! It's like driving a cloud. I swear the ride in the Lightning could seriously give my 2020 Aviator GT (which has air suspension) a run for its money.

The wait is finally over! 16 months after putting in a reservation our F-150 Lightning Lariat arrived at the dealer last week and I took delivery of it this morning. I haven't had much time to drive it around yet and test everything out but all I can say so far is that it's an awesome truck! Stay tuned for more updates. I'll post some photos below. I was initially hesitant about ordering the iced blue silver paint sight unseen but it is definitely growing on me...

I had a similar situation happen 10 years ago with a factory order of a 2011 Lincoln MKX that was missing the ambient lighting on the passenger side footwell but the rest of the vehicle had ambient lighting in the footwells, cupholders, door handles, etc. What was interesting is that we ordered two identically optioned 2011 MKX's, just with different exterior colors (one Black and one Blue). The vehicles arrived at the dealer a few weeks apart; the black one was fine and had ambient lighting everywhere on the vehicle it was supposed to but the blue one was missing the ambient lighting on the passenger footwell. We took the blue MKX back to the dealer after noticing the missing ambient light and they reported it to Ford Canada as a misbuild. The dealer's Ford rep initially told the dealer service manager it was not a misbuild and said there isn't supposed to be ambient lighting in the footwells at all. The service manager then had to explain to the Ford rep that made no sense because why would the vehicle have ambient lights on the driver side and rear seat footwells but not the passenger side. Also we ordered two MKX vehicles and the other one did have ambient lighting everywhere including the passenger footwell. The service manager even took photos of both our MKX's to show the difference that one had the ambient light on the passenger side and one didn't to prove to Ford it was a misbuild. Apparently Ford still wouldn't sign off on fixing the problem and finally had to send someone from Oakville Assembly plant to the dealership to inspect the vehicle. After the guy from Oakville saw it in person and compared it to other MKX's the dealer had on the lot and showroom (which did have ambient lights on the passenger side) they confirmed it was a misbuild and that yes it should have the ambient light on the passenger footwell. I found out from the service manager after it got fixed that it was definitely a factory assembly error because they inspected the part# on the original trim piece under the glove box that was missing the ambient light and it was a part# for a Ford Edge (which doesn't have ambient lights) instead of the MKX which does.

I can't even hear the alert noise on my Aviator from inside unless I have a window open. Although it is a very well insulated cabin and I believe even the side windows are laminated for sound so that probably makes it harder to hear it also. The must have made it louder on the Corsair if you can hear it inside.

Bear in mind that the official rated EV range and the projected range on your screen is always an estimate and will vary wildly depending on your driving conditions, outside temperature, use of climate control, etc. My Aviator GT has an official rated EV range of 34km (21miles). I normally average about 35-40km on a full charge with normal city driving; but I've stretched that to as high as 67km in ideal conditions and driving on hilly roads where you can get lots of regen braking. But in the winter when it is cold and you are using cabin heat the range will drop significantly to about 20-22km from both the temperature extreme which affects the battery and even worse if you're heating the cabin electrically. Curious to see how you make out with the Corsair GT, please update your experience after you've driven it for a while.

That is hilarious! My company just recently leased two 2021 Toyota RAV4 Primes (PHEV) back in February and I could not agree more! The "pedestrian alert" EV noise when you put it in reverse is awful and ridiculously loud. I don't know what engineer at Toyota came up with their stupid EV noise but it could definitely be improved and lower the volume as well. There is no way to disable it and I've can't seem to find a fuse for it to pull out either. Thankfully the EV noise on my 2020 Aviator GT is much more subtle and soothing. How is it on your new Corsair GT? I would think they probably used the same speaker and sound as the Aviator.