mkizlvr Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 (edited) i found this very weird while looking at the new epa test results 2008 lincoln mkz fwd city 18 highway 28 2007 lincoln mkz fwd city17 highway 25 why is it lower than the 2008 with the same engine as the 2007 2007 mkz http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/calculatorS...model=MKZ%20FWD 2008 mkz http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/calculatorS...model=MKZ%20FWD Edited July 25, 2007 by mkizlvr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suv_guy_19 Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 i found this very weird while looking at the new epa test results 2008 lincoln mkz fwd city 18 highway 28 2007 lincoln mkz fwd city17 highway 25 why is it lower than the 2008 with the same engine as the 2007 2007 mkz http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/calculatorS...model=MKZ%20FWD 2008 mkz http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/calculatorS...model=MKZ%20FWD you must not come here often....there have been many discussions on the change in epa mileage testing for 2008. It reflects more real world mileage....all cars lost mpg...for example, prius, from 60 to 45 mpg.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 you must not come here often....there have been many discussions on the change in epa mileage testing for 2008. It reflects more real world mileage....all cars lost mpg...for example, prius, from 60 to 45 mpg.... in this case it went UP though????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkizlvr Posted July 25, 2007 Author Share Posted July 25, 2007 i know that they went up but why didnt the 2007 go up with the new ratings also why only the 2008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igor Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 WOW .. Ford did some serious tuning on the D35 .. the 28mpp rating is excellent .. (still lower than the 31mpg Toyota manages from their 3.5l though ) Igor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 i know that they went up but why didnt the 2007 go up with the new ratings also why only the 2008 The new ratings weren't reflected on the '07 models, that's all. '07 was apparently tested under the old standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metallicat Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 The 3.5 Yoda is rated higher than my Fusion I4 manual? 2007 specs, my car is rated at 31mpg hwy, which is just about what I see at 70mph, no AC. I think the 2008 ratings are 29mpg hwy for the manual? I guess there is something to be said for a larger engine working a more conservative final drive ratio. The sweet spot for the I4 manual Fusion is slower speeds - shifting at 2k, 5th gear @ 35mph = 29+ mpg combined driving in my case if I really baby it in the stop-and-go and don't exceed 70mph on the fwy. WOW .. Ford did some serious tuning on the D35 .. the 28mpp rating is excellent .. (still lower than the 31mpg Toyota manages from their 3.5l though ) Igor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
focus05 Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 The 3.5 Yoda is rated higher than my Fusion I4 manual? 2007 specs, my car is rated at 31mpg hwy, which is just about what I see at 70mph, no AC. I think the 2008 ratings are 29mpg hwy for the manual? I guess there is something to be said for a larger engine working a more conservative final drive ratio. The sweet spot for the I4 manual Fusion is slower speeds - shifting at 2k, 5th gear @ 35mph = 29+ mpg combined driving in my case if I really baby it in the stop-and-go and don't exceed 70mph on the fwy. The Toyota 3.5 gets a rating of 19/28 in the Camry if I'm not mistaken. 22/31 was the old rating. The biggest problem with the manual Fusion is the gearing. My mom gets 30 on the highway in her Fusion manual, but I bet she would get 32 with better gearing. However, that gearing also allows you to sit in 5th gear going 35-40 around town. She averages 28-29 for all driving (most of which is in the suburbs). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igor Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 The Toyota 3.5 gets a rating of 19/28 in the Camry if I'm not mistaken. 22/31 was the old rating. The biggest problem with the manual Fusion is the gearing. My mom gets 30 on the highway in her Fusion manual, but I bet she would get 32 with better gearing. However, that gearing also allows you to sit in 5th gear going 35-40 around town. She averages 28-29 for all driving (most of which is in the suburbs). you are correct ... 19/28 http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/compx2008f....nField=Findacar That means that the D35 in the MKZ practically matches the rating (Fusion would probably match it since it has lower weight) .. DAMN YOU FORD ... Fusion needs a better engine ..and I pray that the PIP D30 promised for the face lift next year delivers BETTER mileage than the D35 .. because it has lower displacement and power, and is probably going to remain less refined than the competition .. so it needs SOMETHING to best them. Igor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suv_guy_19 Posted July 25, 2007 Share Posted July 25, 2007 in this case it went UP though????? oh...now that i didn't see.....lol....well...now i understand the confusion.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobm Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 (edited) It is obvious that Ford has achieved a 10% increase in combined fuel mileage in the '08 MKZ. Same car, same engine & trans, that's pretty spectacular!! How did they accomplish it---Tires, gearing, or maybe just software programming? Does anybody know? Edited September 2, 2007 by bobm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 It is obvious that Ford has achieved a 10% increase in combined fuel mileage in the '08 MKZ. Same car, same engine & trans, that's pretty spectacular!! How did they accomplish it---Tires, gearing, or maybe just software programming? Does anybody know? Most likely gears and software. They've had a year to tune on the 3.5L. They may have also switched to the 6F JV tranny - not sure yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LincolnFan Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 WOW .. Ford did some serious tuning on the D35 .. the 28mpg rating is excellent .. (still lower than the 31mpg Toyota manages from their 3.5l though ) Igor 31 MPG from a 6 cylinder? I think that's the 4 banger. IIRC the Camry was rated @ 19/28, and this is pretty darn close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted September 16, 2007 Share Posted September 16, 2007 The new ratings weren't reflected on the '07 models, that's all. '07 was apparently tested under the old standard. From what I understand, yes. 07 models were tested under the old system, while the 08's and beyond are tested by the new method. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobm Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 (edited) From what I understand, yes. 07 models were tested under the old system, while the 08's and beyond are tested by the new method. Well, you still don't seem to get it. The '08 MKZ fwd gets 10% better combined mileage than the '07 when BOTH are tested by the new '08 testing method. Go here & see for yourself. http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/findacar.htm Edited September 20, 2007 by bobm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkizlvr Posted September 21, 2007 Author Share Posted September 21, 2007 i know i still am not sure wat the real answer is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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