Deanh Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 Get rid of old inventory? you mean the problem child.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvsked Posted October 27, 2007 Author Share Posted October 27, 2007 It's not that the grill looks bad, it's just that it doesn't match the 1992 sheetmetal. Also, the E-Series is the only Ford that doesn't have round fenderwells. It's just a mismatch of styling. I know it's mostly a commercial vehicle these days, but I wish they would of done a little more sheetmetal work. A new Econoline based on the Expedition EL would be the ideal vehicle to me! "92" Styling... You mean someone noticed! Seriously all that automation is due for an update, it has probably been "kitted" a 100 times. At some point in time, Ford is better off with new automation vs. "the kit's"...And, once you factor in the goal of common platforms (Truck Series) it makes sense that the body style is due for overhaul. Hard to believe the major sheet metal i.e. floorpan etc. would go beyond 20 yr cycle = 2012. Takes 2yrs to build a bodyshop and prove out = 2010.... or a Flex bodyshop = lower construction time and cost because of less hard tooling. Hence the Flex portion, of Flex bodyshops. One wild crazy rumor, heard way back when, was if the Automation was built in place at a Ford facility as opposed to being built at a vendor shop, disassembled, and reassembled in a Ford facility it would be a significant coat savings. But that would require a plant to have floor space available and an agreement with the UAW that would allow the use of outside vendors, but if Ford had trades in GEN it would be a good way of putting them to work for the Company. Just wild and crazy thoughts from a crack pot..... Only way something like that could happen.... is in a contract year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 They did change more then the grill, but not much more... Not quite as ugly in person, but almost... They do look better in person. Also the chrome grille looks MUCH better than the plastic one, I've seen both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 If the engine bay was extended to accommodate the 6.4, why are they still using the 6.0? I was under the impression that the Econolines weren't being fitted w/ the 6.4L diesel yet b/c of the situation w/ Navistar. They may be using left-over inventory of 6.0s for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 Wow, you didn't say anything to disparage Fords and prop up an import, only truth are you turning over a new leaf pcsario? I know, I'm impressed. I was looking for something negative in his post, but couldn't find anything for once, as you said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furious1Auto Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 I was under the impression that the Econolines weren't being fitted w/ the 6.4L diesel yet b/c of the situation w/ Navistar. They may be using left-over inventory of 6.0s for now. I'm sure it's both, Navistar cost us 1/4 production and 7 months of overtime, but they are using 6.0's as of now. The best thing that could happen is for it to be outfitted with the Lion motor in the 150 model!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soupy Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 I'm sure it's both, Navistar cost us 1/4 production and 7 months of overtime, but they are using 6.0's as of now. The best thing that could happen is for it to be outfitted with the Lion motor in the 150 model!! Hopefully 4.4L diesel will be ready in late 08 for 09 150. That could be HUGE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P71_CrownVic Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 For the love of God and all thats holy, who designed that front grill? Did they get the guy who does the chrome gill inserts from the focus? Aside from the grill, not bad looking, for what it is. This is worse... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadrunner Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 The headlight arrangement makes it look "dopey" - like if it was human it would be unintelligent. (If you associate faces to cars, that's what I see) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 (If you associate faces to cars, that's what I see) I do sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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