Edstock Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 (edited) woweekazingas, it looks like it needs to be lanced before it pops. I agree — or before it turns into something like the typewriter in Naked Lunch. Edited January 6, 2008 by Edstock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 (edited) If Ford really wished to stay competitive, the 4.6L can be easily reworked and provide 350HP with the right parts. It's pretty sad that the engine on the Inifniti G37 can pump out 330HP, and Ford is just thinking of adding about 10-15 horsepower in the next revision. 300HP is no longer much of a goal since some V6 engines are already passing that mark. Well, Ford own new EcoBoost (TwinForce) 3.5L V6 will produce 340 hp. Maybe Mustang will be in line to get this engine? Edited January 6, 2008 by rmc523 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P71_CrownVic Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Well, Ford own new EcoBoost (TwinForce) 3.5L V6 will produce 340 hp. Maybe Mustang will be in line to get this engine? I am sure Mustang fans will love trading their V8 GTs in for V6 GTs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syrtran Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 I am sure Mustang fans will love trading their V8 GTs in for V6 GTs. Maybe no, maybe yes, but if Ford also puts the tech on a V8, then they won't need to put ridiculous sight-limiting lumps on the hood to fully cover the 5.4 (or 6.2, etc) while still getting over 400HP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueblood Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Well, Ford own new EcoBoost (TwinForce) 3.5L V6 will produce 340 hp. Maybe Mustang will be in line to get this engine? For some odd reason I'm not impressed with a twin turbo V6 that can only muster 10 horsepower over a naturally aspirated one... Only Ford... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkFive Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 But that center stack, woweekazingas, it looks like it needs to be lanced before it pops. It looks like something you would expect on a Smart car. It doesn't look like something you would expect on a vehicle in its price range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suv_guy_19 Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 For some odd reason I'm not impressed with a twin turbo V6 that can only muster 10 horsepower over a naturally aspirated one... Only Ford... Did you miss the improved fuel economy numbers and the fact that it will come in a vehicle that actual people can afford. Ford really can do almost no right for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P71_CrownVic Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Maybe no, maybe yes, but if Ford also puts the tech on a V8, then they won't need to put ridiculous sight-limiting lumps on the hood to fully cover the 5.4 (or 6.2, etc) while still getting over 400HP. They shouldn't regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Did you miss the improved fuel economy numbers and the fact that it will come in a vehicle that actual people can afford. Ford really can do almost no right for you. Not to mention the gobs of torque that are common in force-fed engines compared to their high-strung naturally-aspirated brethren. Also, there are zero final power numbers on the TwinForce available. People sure are quick to jump the gun around here.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suv_guy_19 Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Not to mention the gobs of torque that are common in force-fed engines compared to their high-strung naturally-aspirated brethren. Also, there are zero final power numbers on the TwinForce available. People sure are quick to jump the gun around here.... Hey, there's nothing wrong with jumping the gun, as long as your negative about it :P lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Hey, there's nothing wrong with jumping the gun, as long as your negative about it :P lol. Eh. I mean 340 HP is a solid number for a Taurus that needs to be pushed through an AWD powertrain. I imagine if the same mill makes it into the Mustang, it will likely be tweaked a little differently. Alas, we've also heard no solid word on what V8's will be available in the '10 Mustang. Those rumors of 5.0 DOHC's are still around, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suv_guy_19 Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Those rumors of 5.0 DOHC's are still around, no? I believe so. I haven't heard any different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueblood Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Eh. I mean 340 HP is a solid number for a Taurus that needs to be pushed through an AWD powertrain. I imagine if the same mill makes it into the Mustang, it will likely be tweaked a little differently. Alas, we've also heard no solid word on what V8's will be available in the '10 Mustang. Those rumors of 5.0 DOHC's are still around, no? I heard 400hp-360tq. Supposedly DOHC 5.0L mod, I'd assume it would have dual VVT and DI to get those kind of numbers, but I'm betting on a 310hp 4.6 until I see proof straight from Ford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csneed2323 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Did anyone notice the antenna in the back by the trunk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Did anyone notice the antenna in the back by the trunk? No, I didn't notice that. I don't know why Ford can't hide the antennas in every model like they do with Expedition. It makes the vehicles look a lot better, much cleaner, especially for a sportscar like Mustang. Even some sort of fin would look better, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P71_CrownVic Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 No, I didn't notice that. I don't know why Ford can't hide the antennas in every model like they do with Expedition. It makes the vehicles look a lot better, much cleaner, especially for a sportscar like Mustang. Even some sort of fin would look better, IMO. Even the Panthers get hidden antennas... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igor Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 From what I've heard the 09 Camaro is supposed to get an LS3 engine which will lay waste to the Mustang GT, as long as Ford doesn't make a big upgrade in power to it. The GT500 will probably stay pretty much the same so it should have no problem with the top Camaro, I'm just worried the GT will find itself in a place like it was in in the 90's.. Found some details.. http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54138 Good luck, where is a new Mustang engine? I'd bet we see nothing more than 310 horsepower out of the 4.6 with the addition of the Bullitt air filter.. Now there are rumors from some people of a 400 horse 5.0L engine for the GT, which should be standard by 2009, but I just can't believe that from conservative Ford until I see them announce it themselves.. so you will ignore solid info once again to bitch and moan?!??!?! 3.5l V6 5.0l V8 6.2l V8 TwinForce 5.0l V8 Yeah Ford will simply eat dust ... Igor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMatt Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 I don't really understand why so many people get so worked up about the Mustang possibly being underpowered when compared to the upcoming Camaro. The selling point for "pony cars" has always been price. The Mustang will always provide excellent bang for the buck, Camaros have always been more expensive. Any gearhead that cares about power would rather spend $25k on a Mustang and put the extra $5-10k, that would have been spent on a Camaro, back in to their Mustang. My buddy has an 06 GT that is pushing 450hp at the wheels, the total price for his car after add-ons is standing at $33k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suv_guy_19 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Even the Panthers get hidden antennas... I thought they put the whip back. If they didn't, I suppose that makes the panther more desirable than the Mustang....:lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P71_CrownVic Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 I thought they put the whip back. Only for '05. Brilliant Ford... If they didn't, I suppose that makes the panther more desirable than the Mustang....:lol: Exactly. Lets see you take 5 people across the country with a ton of stuff in a Mustang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suv_guy_19 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Exactly. Lets see you take 5 people across the country with a ton of stuff in a Mustang. Yes, because thats makes the panther more desirable. I doubt you could find five people in a given area that would even want to be seen in a panther. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomServo92 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 For some odd reason I'm not impressed with a twin turbo V6 that can only muster 10 horsepower over a naturally aspirated one... Only Ford... That's because you're completely ignoring that it makes 70 lb/ft of torque more than a naturally aspirated one.... only Blueblood.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstock Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 The power rating is tentative, and most certainly low. As well, it is implicit in the EcoBoost system, that, if it senses better fuel, it will adjust to take advantage with VVT, etc. An aftermarket exhaust and a different chip . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMSA-XJR9 Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 The power rating is tentative, and most certainly low. As well, it is implicit in the EcoBoost system, that, if it senses better fuel, it will adjust to take advantage with VVT, etc. An aftermarket exhaust and a different chip . . . . . . . and more BOOST!! Maybe the EcoBoost 3.5 will be the 'Terminator' engine of the v6 market. :shades: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomServo92 Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 The power rating is tentative, and most certainly low. As well, it is implicit in the EcoBoost system, that, if it senses better fuel, it will adjust to take advantage with VVT, etc. An aftermarket exhaust and a different chip . . . Yep. There's plenty of performance potential in Ecoboost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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