Michael Reynolds Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 Dang sarcasm detector's broke again! Looks like I need to download another software patch. Well, i guess that's what I get for using an open source sarcasm detector instead of the Microsoft version. Well the patch for the patch was released just now. So you are muy behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 Well the patch for the patch was released just now. So you are muy behind. What was that about my behind? What? Oh shoot! Apparently it's working but it's running quite slowly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 Well the patch for the patch was released just now. So you are muy behind. I used the patch to help me quit patching patches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 I used the patch to help me quit patching patches. Patches? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 Jerry Reed driving over all those motorcycles in Smokey & the Bandit almost (but not quite) makes watching the whole rest of the movie worth it. Or was that Jonathan Winters in Every Which Way But Loose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Reynolds Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 Patches? LOL @ that song. Talk about elevator music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Reynolds Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 Jerry Reed driving over all those motorcycles in Smokey & the Bandit almost (but not quite) makes watching the whole rest of the movie worth it. Or was that Jonathan Winters in Every Which Way But Loose? I don't remember a bunch of motorcycles in Smokey and the Bandit, but then again I haven't seen that movie in quite some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 LOL @ that song. Talk about elevator music. A more relevant Jerry Reed song would be "Lord Mr. Ford" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 I don't remember a bunch of motorcycles in Smokey and the Bandit, but then again I haven't seen that movie in quite some time. I think it was Smokey and the Bandit. In Every Which Way But Loose, Winters asks the waitress to keep an eye on his lunch and then takes the Black Widows ("Did you know more people die every year from black widow bites than snake bites?" "Is that a fact? I usually just step on 'em") out back and trashes them before coming back in to finish his meal. In Smokey and the Bandit, a biker gang roughs up Jerry Reed, who then goes out and drives over about ten or fifteen bikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Reynolds Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 I think it was Smokey and the Bandit. In Every Which Way But Loose, Winters asks the waitress to keep an eye on his lunch and then takes the Black Widows ("Did you know more people die every year from black widow bites than snake bites?" "Is that a fact? I usually just step on 'em") out back and trashes them before coming back in to finish his meal. In Smokey and the Bandit, a biker gang roughs up Jerry Reed, who then goes out and drives over about ten or fifteen bikes. Hmm, now I need to re-watch the movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
focus05 Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 All of this is fascinating, but the 2009 Escape was supposed to start production today. Anyone have any info? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueblood Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 No. It gets better gas mileage because it's more powerful and efficient. He's just complaining because the Mustang isn't going to get a 6.2L engine in 2 years. Wrong, If you payed attention instead of trying to score points you'd know it has zero to do with the motor going into the Mustang, I know more than you about the upcoming Mustang engines and I'm perfectly happy with them. What I'm pissed about is that the F-150, the Expedition, and especially the Navigator will have to do with the thirsty, heavy, massive, weak 5.4 for who knows how long. The new 5.0L will out power the 5.4L while getting better gas mileage, so why on Earth Ford would stick with the soon to be pointless 5.4 is a real mystery, although from reading the old wizards posts, Ford is in a complete mess, do they have any clue what they are doing? All these wild new engines we keep hearing about are nothing but vaporware, I'll believe them when I see them on the local dealer lots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueblood Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 And because he thinks this engine: is a boat anchor. Great, now the moderator is trolling! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 (edited) Wrong, If you payed attention instead of trying to score points you'd know it has zero to do with the motor going into the Mustang, I know more than you about the upcoming Mustang engines and I'm perfectly happy with them. What I'm pissed about is that the F-150, the Expedition, and especially the Navigator will have to do with the thirsty, heavy, massive, weak 5.4 for who knows how long. The new 5.0L will out power the 5.4L while getting better gas mileage, so why on Earth Ford would stick with the soon to be pointless 5.4 is a real mystery, although from reading the old wizards posts, Ford is in a complete mess, do they have any clue what they are doing? All these wild new engines we keep hearing about are nothing but vaporware, I'll believe them when I see them on the local dealer lots. 5.4 improvements are a stop gap...they could have left well enough alone, engine IS fine as it sits ...instead we get more HP, more Torque, and a VASTLY superior 6 speed auto to bide time so as not to RUSH something to market with the potential problems rushed developement can cause...am i the only person that understand that getting something RIGHT first time out is of prime importance and its better to be a little late and looking good than early and looking like Carmen Diaz sans makeup????????....sheesh....engine developement is not like that illegal substance some of you posters obviously grow under lamps in their backroom closet...one does not just fake sunlight staple tin foil and add water.......... Edited June 24, 2008 by Deanh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 (edited) Wrong, If you payed attention instead of trying to score points you'd know it has zero to do with the motor going into the Mustang Right. You don't like the 'boat anchor', and no amount of nothing is going to convince you. Not facts, not anything. You're hung up on initial throttle response and the devil take the rest of it. If the 5.4 as connected to the F150's 4-speed doesn't kick you in the butt, it's a boat anchor and that's the end of it. Just screw facts, right, it's your opinion that matters. Edited June 24, 2008 by RichardJensen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Reynolds Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Wrong, If you payed attention instead of trying to score points you'd know it has zero to do with the motor going into the Mustang, I know more than you about the upcoming Mustang engines and I'm perfectly happy with them. What I'm pissed about is that the F-150, the Expedition, and especially the Navigator will have to do with the thirsty, heavy, massive, weak 5.4 for who knows how long. The new 5.0L will out power the 5.4L while getting better gas mileage, so why on Earth Ford would stick with the soon to be pointless 5.4 is a real mystery, although from reading the old wizards posts, Ford is in a complete mess, do they have any clue what they are doing? All these wild new engines we keep hearing about are nothing but vaporware, I'll believe them when I see them on the local dealer lots. I'm curious, as I am not familiar with that engine, but what were the purported specs of the 5L? I would think that considering the fact that the 5L hasn't seen the light of day, that it (and all the specs along with it) were vaporware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Wow, the rear lights are shapped like the eyes of the people that will be buying them....Anyone noticed that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 I'm curious, as I am not familiar with that engine, but what were the purported specs of the 5L? I would think that considering the fact that the 5L hasn't seen the light of day, that it (and all the specs along with it) were vaporware. It's anything but vaporware according to Blue II. He's been pretty accurate in the past. I believe the initial specs (at least in Mustang tune) were 400 HP, 360 lb-ft or something along those lines. Blue II has also hinted at an EcoBoost 5.0 with 425+ HP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Reynolds Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 It's anything but vaporware according to Blue II. He's been pretty accurate in the past. I believe the initial specs (at least in Mustang tune) were 400 HP, 360 lb-ft or something along those lines. Blue II has also hinted at an EcoBoost 5.0 with 425+ HP. That's great, but if Blueblood is going to jump up and down about engines being vaporware unless they are for sale NOW.......then the same thing applies to the 5.0L. It's basically a double standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 That's great, but if Blueblood is going to jump up and down about engines being vaporware unless they are for sale NOW.......then the same thing applies to the 5.0L. It's basically a double standard. Well poor Blueblood. Using that definition, he's all pissed off that Ford cancelled an engine that was only vaporware to begin with, as the Boss was still about a year away from production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 And of course, they haven't really canceled it either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 And of course, they haven't really canceled it either. True, if it is indeed still slated for the Super Duty. If market conditions change, I can't see it being too difficult to shove the Boss back into the F-150 and Expy should they see it fit to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueblood Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 I'm curious, as I am not familiar with that engine, but what were the purported specs of the 5L? I would think that considering the fact that the 5L hasn't seen the light of day, that it (and all the specs along with it) were vaporware. The 5.0L in the Mustang is supposed to make 400 horsepower and 360 lb. ft. of torque, without DI, the DI version that is supposed to come a year or 2 later should be around 430-440 horsepower. Now it's rumored that the truck version going into the F-150 is to be rated at 360 horsepower, and unknown torque, I'm thinking they should be able to get about 380 out of it. So where does that leave the 5.4? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 So where does that leave the 5.4? Eventually cancelled. That's the entire point of the 5.0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueblood Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 That's great, but if Blueblood is going to jump up and down about engines being vaporware unless they are for sale NOW.......then the same thing applies to the 5.0L. It's basically a double standard. As of now, the 5.0 is on, my best guess is we'll see it in the F-150 next summer for calendar year 2010. Could be later, I wish ford would keep people informed rather than be so secretive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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