louie Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Sterling Heights Ford UAW local may ask for revote Workers fear 'no' vote will lose axle work for site Bryce G. Hoffman / The Detroit News Ford Motor Co. could shift work promised to its Sterling Heights axle factory as part of a tentative agreement with the United Auto Workers to a German supplier after the local union voted overwhelmingly against the deal, according to a union source. Now, some workers there are organizing a petition urging UAW President Ron Gettelfinger to call for a revote. Spurred on by union dissidents who say the time for concessions is over, rank-and-file members at plants across the country have cast their ballots against the proposed contract changes, which were negotiated by Ford and UAW leaders earlier this month. While the union has not released any numbers, people familiar with the situation said about 3,000 more workers have so far voted against ratification than have voted in favor of it. Advertisement Under the terms of the agreement, Sterling Axle was supposed to get new rear-wheel drive work that would have added about 100 jobs. Now, union sources fear that work will be given to Getrag Corp., a German supplier with a nonunion factory in North Carolina. Local union leaders also were told Ford is considering outsourcing other components made at the plant, where 80 percent of workers voted against ratification. The company says any change in its plans for Sterling will not come until after voting is completed at all locals. "We haven't made any decision," said Ford spokesman Mark Truby. "We're not going to comment on future product sourcing during the ratification process." With voting scheduled to continue through Sunday at the remaining UAW locals, momentum could still shift in favor of the agreement. But Ford executives have little hope of that happening. "This may be the start of a little hard ball," said David Cole, chairman of the Center for Automotive Research. "If Ford can't be competitive on labor, I think we'll see more outsourcing." On Thursday, results from two Ohio locals were released, providing more bad news to the company and union leaders. UAW Local 420, which represents workers at Ford's Walton Hills Stamping Plant, voted 88 percent against ratification. At UAW Local 863, which represents workers at the Sharonville Transmission Plant, 75 percent of workers voted no. Now, attention is focused on UAW Local 862 in Louisville, where workers from Ford's Kentucky Truck Plant and Louisville Assembly Plant are casting their ballots. That is Gettelfinger's home local, and the UAW president traveled there on Sunday to urge members to support the deal. Opponents are critical of a clause that would limit the UAW's right to strike in the upcoming 2011 contract negotiations. But Ford says these limits are necessary to maintain a measure of parity with its domestic competitors, which negotiated even broader "no-strike" deals with the UAW during their recent bankruptcies. The deal also offers the promise of new work to plants like Sterling Axle. "I don't think people here really understood that the work we had been promised was contingent on ratification," said Sterling Axle UAW member Brian Pannebecker, who voted in favor of the agreement and is now helping to organize a petition in support of revote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zypher Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Sterling Heights Ford UAW local may ask for revoteWorkers fear 'no' vote will lose axle work for site Bryce G. Hoffman / The Detroit News Ford Motor Co. could shift work promised to its Sterling Heights axle factory as part of a tentative agreement with the United Auto Workers to a German supplier after the local union voted overwhelmingly against the deal, according to a union source. Now, some workers there are organizing a petition urging UAW President Ron Gettelfinger to call for a revote. Spurred on by union dissidents who say the time for concessions is over, rank-and-file members at plants across the country have cast their ballots against the proposed contract changes, which were negotiated by Ford and UAW leaders earlier this month. While the union has not released any numbers, people familiar with the situation said about 3,000 more workers have so far voted against ratification than have voted in favor of it. Advertisement Under the terms of the agreement, Sterling Axle was supposed to get new rear-wheel drive work that would have added about 100 jobs. Now, union sources fear that work will be given to Getrag Corp., a German supplier with a nonunion factory in North Carolina. Local union leaders also were told Ford is considering outsourcing other components made at the plant, where 80 percent of workers voted against ratification. The company says any change in its plans for Sterling will not come until after voting is completed at all locals. "We haven't made any decision," said Ford spokesman Mark Truby. "We're not going to comment on future product sourcing during the ratification process." With voting scheduled to continue through Sunday at the remaining UAW locals, momentum could still shift in favor of the agreement. But Ford executives have little hope of that happening. "This may be the start of a little hard ball," said David Cole, chairman of the Center for Automotive Research. "If Ford can't be competitive on labor, I think we'll see more outsourcing." On Thursday, results from two Ohio locals were released, providing more bad news to the company and union leaders. UAW Local 420, which represents workers at Ford's Walton Hills Stamping Plant, voted 88 percent against ratification. At UAW Local 863, which represents workers at the Sharonville Transmission Plant, 75 percent of workers voted no. Now, attention is focused on UAW Local 862 in Louisville, where workers from Ford's Kentucky Truck Plant and Louisville Assembly Plant are casting their ballots. That is Gettelfinger's home local, and the UAW president traveled there on Sunday to urge members to support the deal. Opponents are critical of a clause that would limit the UAW's right to strike in the upcoming 2011 contract negotiations. But Ford says these limits are necessary to maintain a measure of parity with its domestic competitors, which negotiated even broader "no-strike" deals with the UAW during their recent bankruptcies. The deal also offers the promise of new work to plants like Sterling Axle. "I don't think people here really understood that the work we had been promised was contingent on ratification," said Sterling Axle UAW member Brian Pannebecker, who voted in favor of the agreement and is now helping to organize a petition in support of revote. And nobody sees the blackmail part that goes on here. Tell you what when this shit is said and done with most of these reps that were voted in and supported this will not make it comes next election. The IUAW is so affraid of loosing the cushy jobs they have that they will now resort to scaring people. People need to understand that if Ford does take back work it said it would grant based on a yes vote when most people voted no, the public is going to backlash at ford and were all screwed. It's a vicious cycle we all live in but I just want to know what happend to the union? Don't think for one second I am not a union brother thru and thru but when the very people basicly hired to protect us are trying to screw us I get alittle angry. The way I look at it we have a contract lets complete this one before we move to an altered one. Maybe the next group of people that bargin for us can look in that direction and put that in our national agreement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CourtJester Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 And nobody sees the blackmail part that goes on here. Tell you what when this shit is said and done with most of these reps that were voted in and supported this will not make it comes next election. The IUAW is so affraid of loosing the cushy jobs they have that they will now resort to scaring people. People need to understand that if Ford does take back work it said it would grant based on a yes vote when most people voted no, the public is going to backlash at ford and were all screwed. It's a vicious cycle we all live in but I just want to know what happend to the union? Don't think for one second I am not a union brother thru and thru but when the very people basicly hired to protect us are trying to screw us I get alittle angry. The way I look at it we have a contract lets complete this one before we move to an altered one. Maybe the next group of people that bargin for us can look in that direction and put that in our national agreement. Spot on top, great post. We need people at the IUAW who has our backs- not those who shove a knife in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0824sgt Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 (edited) Brian Pannebaker, the attention whore of the sterling plant. Always looking to get in the paper. Amen!! I'll leave it at that!!! Im sure hes here too!!!! :reading: Edited October 30, 2009 by 0824sgt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpmaster Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Brian Pannebaker, the attention whore of the sterling plant. Always looking to get in the paper. "Attention whore." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mropus Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Sterling Heights Ford UAW local may ask for revoteWorkers fear 'no' vote will lose axle work for site Bryce G. Hoffman / The Detroit News Ford Motor Co. could shift work promised to its Sterling Heights axle factory as part of a tentative agreement with the United Auto Workers to a German supplier after the local union voted overwhelmingly against the deal, according to a union source. Now, some workers there are organizing a petition urging UAW President Ron Gettelfinger to call for a revote. Spurred on by union dissidents who say the time for concessions is over, rank-and-file members at plants across the country have cast their ballots against the proposed contract changes, which were negotiated by Ford and UAW leaders earlier this month. While the union has not released any numbers, people familiar with the situation said about 3,000 more workers have so far voted against ratification than have voted in favor of it. Advertisement Under the terms of the agreement, Sterling Axle was supposed to get new rear-wheel drive work that would have added about 100 jobs. Now, union sources fear that work will be given to Getrag Corp., a German supplier with a nonunion factory in North Carolina. Local union leaders also were told Ford is considering outsourcing other components made at the plant, where 80 percent of workers voted against ratification. The company says any change in its plans for Sterling will not come until after voting is completed at all locals. "We haven't made any decision," said Ford spokesman Mark Truby. "We're not going to comment on future product sourcing during the ratification process." With voting scheduled to continue through Sunday at the remaining UAW locals, momentum could still shift in favor of the agreement. But Ford executives have little hope of that happening. "This may be the start of a little hard ball," said David Cole, chairman of the Center for Automotive Research. "If Ford can't be competitive on labor, I think we'll see more outsourcing." On Thursday, results from two Ohio locals were released, providing more bad news to the company and union leaders. UAW Local 420, which represents workers at Ford's Walton Hills Stamping Plant, voted 88 percent against ratification. At UAW Local 863, which represents workers at the Sharonville Transmission Plant, 75 percent of workers voted no. Now, attention is focused on UAW Local 862 in Louisville, where workers from Ford's Kentucky Truck Plant and Louisville Assembly Plant are casting their ballots. That is Gettelfinger's home local, and the UAW president traveled there on Sunday to urge members to support the deal. Opponents are critical of a clause that would limit the UAW's right to strike in the upcoming 2011 contract negotiations. But Ford says these limits are necessary to maintain a measure of parity with its domestic competitors, which negotiated even broader "no-strike" deals with the UAW during their recent bankruptcies. The deal also offers the promise of new work to plants like Sterling Axle. "I don't think people here really understood that the work we had been promised was contingent on ratification," said Sterling Axle UAW member Brian Pannebecker, who voted in favor of the agreement and is now helping to organize a petition in support of revote. I guess it time to talk to President Obama now , he promise to keep work in the USA .Lets go to the newspaper if this work is ship overseas.I voted for him for that reason ,He will not get my vote if this happens to us ,and I WILL BE TAKING TO REPORTERS WERE EVER I CAN .rON N BOB SUPPORTS ABORTION IN OUR HEALTH CARE VEBA ,JUST LETTIN THE PEOPLE THAT READ THE BIBLE KNOW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feegsit Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 I guess it time to talk to President Obama now , he promise to keep work in the USA .Lets go to the newspaper if this work is ship overseas.I voted for him for that reason ,He will not get my vote if this happens to us ,and I WILL BE TAKING TO REPORTERS WERE EVER I CAN .rON N BOB SUPPORTS ABORTION IN OUR HEALTH CARE VEBA ,JUST LETTIN THE PEOPLE THAT READ THE BIBLE KNOW. Of course they support abortion....look at this modification! Vote NO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1993Stang Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Sterling Heights Ford UAW local may ask for revoteWorkers fear 'no' vote will lose axle work for site Bryce G. Hoffman / The Detroit News Ford Motor Co. could shift work promised to its Sterling Heights axle factory as part of a tentative agreement with the United Auto Workers to a German supplier after the local union voted overwhelmingly against the deal, according to a union source. Now, some workers there are organizing a petition urging UAW President Ron Gettelfinger to call for a revote. Spurred on by union dissidents who say the time for concessions is over, rank-and-file members at plants across the country have cast their ballots against the proposed contract changes, which were negotiated by Ford and UAW leaders earlier this month. While the union has not released any numbers, people familiar with the situation said about 3,000 more workers have so far voted against ratification than have voted in favor of it. Advertisement Under the terms of the agreement, Sterling Axle was supposed to get new rear-wheel drive work that would have added about 100 jobs. Now, union sources fear that work will be given to Getrag Corp., a German supplier with a nonunion factory in North Carolina. Local union leaders also were told Ford is considering outsourcing other components made at the plant, where 80 percent of workers voted against ratification. The company says any change in its plans for Sterling will not come until after voting is completed at all locals. "We haven't made any decision," said Ford spokesman Mark Truby. "We're not going to comment on future product sourcing during the ratification process." With voting scheduled to continue through Sunday at the remaining UAW locals, momentum could still shift in favor of the agreement. But Ford executives have little hope of that happening. "This may be the start of a little hard ball," said David Cole, chairman of the Center for Automotive Research. "If Ford can't be competitive on labor, I think we'll see more outsourcing." On Thursday, results from two Ohio locals were released, providing more bad news to the company and union leaders. UAW Local 420, which represents workers at Ford's Walton Hills Stamping Plant, voted 88 percent against ratification. At UAW Local 863, which represents workers at the Sharonville Transmission Plant, 75 percent of workers voted no. Now, attention is focused on UAW Local 862 in Louisville, where workers from Ford's Kentucky Truck Plant and Louisville Assembly Plant are casting their ballots. That is Gettelfinger's home local, and the UAW president traveled there on Sunday to urge members to support the deal. Opponents are critical of a clause that would limit the UAW's right to strike in the upcoming 2011 contract negotiations. But Ford says these limits are necessary to maintain a measure of parity with its domestic competitors, which negotiated even broader "no-strike" deals with the UAW during their recent bankruptcies. The deal also offers the promise of new work to plants like Sterling Axle. "I don't think people here really understood that the work we had been promised was contingent on ratification," said Sterling Axle UAW member Brian Pannebecker, who voted in favor of the agreement and is now helping to organize a petition in support of revote. I just love these spoke people that have no comment, can never say for sure, used to work for the Detroit News and yeah guess what they pay him over 6 figures, yes that's a fact, over 6 figures to say no comment, not sure, nothing definite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganTruck_Mafia Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 "Attention whore." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CandyCane Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 All you NO VOTERS thanks for costing us lots of jobs!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeptic Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 (edited) All you NO VOTERS thanks for costing us lots of jobs!!! You are welcome.You are also licked Candy Cane No votes lead by 4400. Edited October 30, 2009 by skeptic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbabbitt Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 All you NO VOTERS thanks for costing us lots of jobs!!! YOUR VERY WELCOME [sPINLES] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTP_UAW Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 All you NO VOTERS thanks for costing us lots of jobs!!! ..... A lot of $14.00 an hour jobs? Well then, you are quite welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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