waymondospiff Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 B-Segment Nissan Versa - 11,609 Hyundai Accent - 5,308 Toyota Yaris - 4,138 Honda Fit - 2,925 Chevy Aveo - 2,062 Kia Rio - 1,949 The Fit fell flat on its face - I'm thinking there was a supply issue or something. Also interesting, the Versa is the only car on the list to outsell its "big brother" (in this case, the Sentra.) The Sentra is not a great car, and the Versa, while not great, does everything the Sentra does, just about as well, for less money and with more interior room. Interesting formula for success in this category. But to grow this category, the Fiesta, new Aveo, new Accent, & Fiat 500 are going to have to make an appeal that these cars just don't capture. I'm not sure what that appeal will be, but hopefully it'll work: this category will need to triple in size (at least) to make the new cars viable. Boxy Utility Cars Chevy HHR - 4,658 Kia Soul - 3,600 Nissan Cube - 2,814 Mazda5 - 1,975 Scion xB - 1,539 Honda Element - 919 Scion xD - 628 Chrylser PT Cruiser - 627 The PT Cruiser was saved from the grave (again) - but why? Not for 600 units a month. Scion is basically dead with that kind of volume. The Element needs a refresh. The Mazda5 is on track for another 20K year. The Soul & Cube are doing "okay." And the HHR gets no respect, but it's in a class of its own as far as volume goes! C-Segment Toyota Corolla - 16,996 Honda Civic - 16,471 Chevy Cobalt - 14,101 Ford Focus - 13,708 VW Golf/ Jetta - 9,915 (includes Rabbit, GTi, SportWagen, R32) Mazda3 - 8,215 Hyundai Elantra - 7,966 Nissan Sentra - 7,769 Kia Forte - 4,333 Subaru Impreza - 2,804 Dodge Caliber - 2,263 Suzuki SX4 - 759 Kia Spectra - 55 (out-of-production, replaced by Forte) Another Corolla triumph. The Civic is close, but still behind. For all the good press the Forte has gotten I expected better sales. The Mazda3 is running pretty low in volume - maybe the bizarro face is turning people away? The Focus is still doing decently considering the new Fiesta & Focus are around the corner. Same for the Cobalt considering the Cruze is waiting to launch later this year. What happened to the Caliber? Besides getting hit with the ugly stick in & out, getting poor mileage from awful engines, and having a terrible chassis, I mean. And the Golf/Jetta is surprisingly strong - it'd be interesting to see a gas/TDI breakdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Aging Focus is doing a stellar job against the competition, next year the new Focus will be taking no prisoners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 The PT Cruiser was saved from the grave (again) - but why? Not for 600 units a month. Well, to be fair to the decision-makers on that one, the main culprit behind the PT's poor sales now is that it is just flat out old. If an entirely redesigned model is in the works, it could very well prop those sales back up to respectable levels. They have a pretty decent following amongst owners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 Interesting to see that Cobalt + HHR beats all in the C-segment (even if you combine Corolla and xB). Granted Cobalt is fleet heavy but still, impressive results for GM. I think Suzuki SX4 is in the wrong category... but not like it is going to make a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah Harbinger Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 Well, to be fair to the decision-makers on that one, the main culprit behind the PT's poor sales now is that it is just flat out old. If an entirely redesigned model is in the works, it could very well prop those sales back up to respectable levels. They have a pretty decent following amongst owners. It's hard to believe they've gone 11 years without any sort of refresh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 It's hard to believe they've gone 11 years without any sort of refresh! Hey! They changed the tail lights once! :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atvman Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 It's hard to believe they've gone 11 years without any sort of refresh! I know, at least the Ranger and Crown Vic have had some changes. I can't think of a single difference between a 2001 and a 2010 PT Cruiser. Chrysler even keeps the old 2.4L I4 engine line running solely for the PT, every other 4-banger Chrysler gets the GEMA engines! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkarlo Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 I hope people will see that the Fiesta will prolly not outsell the Focus in the US. The market doesn't exist yet. I think we'll see 4-6k a month sales wise, more than that is good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 I know, at least the Ranger and Crown Vic have had some changes. I can't think of a single difference between a 2001 and a 2010 PT Cruiser. Chrysler even keeps the old 2.4L I4 engine line running solely for the PT, every other 4-banger Chrysler gets the GEMA engines! They did change the headlights slightly once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted March 7, 2010 Share Posted March 7, 2010 They did change the headlights slightly once. ...and the interior and the front fascia. Which is about as much as the Ranger. However, all 3 (CV included) are extremely long in the tooth. I think the PT is just an "already existing" stop-gap that was hoped to sell better after being reprieved of its death knell. Ain't working out to well. There's too many better cars out there in the same price range. It was a good car a decade ago, now its fleet fodder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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