nmadole Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 I will be posting my Daily MPG per trip on a blog if anyone is interested in seeing how my vehicle is doing.... not so well at this point.. still love the car http://fusionhybridmpg.blogspot.com/ Feel free to give me pointers or suggestions for the blog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithmcelhinney Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 One thing I would like to see on there would be driving conditions. Rain and snow always kills my mileage... -Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmadole Posted December 6, 2012 Author Share Posted December 6, 2012 One thing I would like to see on there would be driving conditions. Rain and snow always kills my mileage... -Keith Added to the blog, thank you for the suggestion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missileman88 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 It appears Consumer reports agrees with you. http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2012/12/consumer-reports-slams-ford-for.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Carscoop+%28CARSCOOP%29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott029 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 (edited) nmadole, I'm just curious. Does your car have the 235/45/18's. Are they the Goodyears or the Michelins. The Hybrids without the apperance package come with 225/50/17 Michelin Low Rolling Resistant tires. If your car (with the app. package) has 235/45/18 and the Goodyear tires that could be contributing to your lower MPG's. The wider 235 tire has more rolling resistance than the narrower 225's. If you have the Goodyear tire, that would also add to the rolling resistance as that tire is a softer, stickier tire than the LLR Michelin. I went with aftermarket 18" wheels but put 225/45/18 Michelin LLR to keep the tire narrower and less resistance than a wider, stickier tire. Edited December 6, 2012 by scott029 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmadole Posted December 6, 2012 Author Share Posted December 6, 2012 nmadole, I'm just curious. Does your car have the 235/45/18's. Are they the Goodyears or the Michelins. The Hybrids without the apperance package come with 225/50/17 Michelin Low Rolling Resistant tires. If your car (with the app. package) has 235/45/18 and the Goodyear tires that could be contributing to your lower MPG's. The wider 235 tire has more rolling resistance than the narrower 225's. If you have the Goodyear tire, that would also add to the rolling resistance as that tire is a softer, stickier tire than the LLR Michelin. I went with aftermarket 18" wheels but put 225/45/18 Michelin LLR to keep the tire narrower and less resistance than a wider, stickier tire. I have the 18" GOODYEAR EAGLE LS2 (They come on the Sport Package) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincep5 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 This is great. The more info you post the better. I'd really really love to see some hyper mileing on the fusion. My old civic hybrid was rated 50 mpg on a measly engine. It was so easy getting above 50. With the bigger size car and larger engine on the fusion, I would be pleasantly surprised at similar mpgs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbroadwa Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 I have a fully loaded 2013 Fusion Hybrid SE with a little over 500 miles on it now. If you don't mind another set of data points, I drive 13 miles to work (the first six miles are city, the last 7 miles are highway). It was 27 degrees here this morning. It took about ten minutes for the engine to get warm enough that it would switch to EV mode. The Fusion hasn't learned my work place yet; so it doesn't go into EV+ mode near work. Nevertheless, I got 39mpg. On the way home it was 42 degrees F and mixed traffic. The Fusion does know where home is and drives the last minute or so in EV mode. I got 41mpg. What I find interesting is my numbers are eerily close to Consumer Reports' numbers. I'm optimistically hoping I will see them go up a few more mpg, but that report has me thinking I may have hit the limit. I can tell everyone that even slight hills tend to make the gas engine kick in rather easily. Also, the adaptive cruise control tends to be better at managing my mpg on the highway. I usually lose a few mpg if I drive the car without cruise control enabled. If you all like, I'd be happy to post mpgs for a few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmp180psu Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 I am interested in following this thread and the blog. The blog is bookmarked on my phone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FusionHybrid2013 Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 45mpg this morning in 30 degree temp over 36 miles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincep5 Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 How many of you FFH owners owned a previous hybrid before? just curious. my civic hybrid : I logged 3 years of gas fill ups here, before I felt i was becoming too nerdy http://www.greenhybrid.com/compare/mileage/car/2763.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott029 Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 I had an '06 Honda Civic Hybrid for 4 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincep5 Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 I had an '06 Honda Civic Hybrid for 4 years. So whats your current MPGs compared to that one. I had a 06 HCH as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elle Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Don't have my FFH yet, but currently in a Toyota Prius. Am interested in how they compare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FusionHybrid2013 Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 (edited) Never drove a hybrid until I test drove my FFH 2 months ago. It is very different. On a side note, I was getting a little iffy with the supposed destination learning feature. The car learned (EV+ mode) my home location very quickly, but it took until this morning until it finally learned (EV+ mode) my work address. I have driven to work at least 30 times by now. Edited December 7, 2012 by FusionHybrid2013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott029 Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 (edited) I have the 18" GOODYEAR EAGLE LS2 (They come on the Sport Package) I don't know why ford is putting that tire on the hybrid (or any other car). Besides it being an overall terrible tire in every aspect (see tire rack survey) it's got an 8 1/2" wide tread and a treadwear survey rating of 5.4 out of 10 which means it's wide and soft and that will hurt MPG's. I had these tires on my Honda Element (OEM tire) for about a month before I bought a set to replace them. They were scary in the wet and awful in the snow. http://www.tirerack....odel=Eagle LS-2 Edited December 7, 2012 by scott029 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 I don't know why ford is putting that tire on the hybrid (or any other car). Besides it being an overall terrible tire in every aspect (see tire rack survey) it's got an 8 1/2" wide tread and a treadwear survey rating of 5.4 out of 10 which means it's wide and soft and that will hurt MPG's. http://www.tirerack....odel=Eagle LS-2 I think that's a big contributor here along with cold weather/winter blend fuel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camride Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 I have a fully loaded 2013 Fusion Hybrid SE with a little over 500 miles on it now. If you don't mind another set of data points, I drive 13 miles to work (the first six miles are city, the last 7 miles are highway). It was 27 degrees here this morning. It took about ten minutes for the engine to get warm enough that it would switch to EV mode. The Fusion hasn't learned my work place yet; so it doesn't go into EV+ mode near work. Nevertheless, I got 39mpg. On the way home it was 42 degrees F and mixed traffic. The Fusion does know where home is and drives the last minute or so in EV mode. I got 41mpg. What I find interesting is my numbers are eerily close to Consumer Reports' numbers. I'm optimistically hoping I will see them go up a few more mpg, but that report has me thinking I may have hit the limit. I can tell everyone that even slight hills tend to make the gas engine kick in rather easily. Also, the adaptive cruise control tends to be better at managing my mpg on the highway. I usually lose a few mpg if I drive the car without cruise control enabled. If you all like, I'd be happy to post mpgs for a few days. I'm betting there are a few things contributing to the low numbers people are reporting. Weather is definitely one, along with winter gas. Another would be driving style as well as learning how to drive a hybrid for those new to the technology. In addition the learning that the car does as far as your routes and driving style will probably have a decent impact as well. I wouldn't worry too much about magazine reports as they're not getting several benefits that a regular owner would have. I can definitely understand it might be frustrating at first, but I would give it some time and I bet people will be averaging 40mpg+. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmadole Posted December 7, 2012 Author Share Posted December 7, 2012 I drove the same route to work today, same time, same weather, same temp and got 10 mpg better than yesterday... Interesting. Will update blog later tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott029 Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 I drove the same route to work today, same time, same weather, same temp and got 10 mpg better than yesterday... Interesting. Will update blog later tonight Are there stop lights on your route? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmadole Posted December 7, 2012 Author Share Posted December 7, 2012 Are there stop lights on your route? 4 stop signs and 3 stop lights (7.1 miles) total ... Max speed 55 mph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott029 Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Did you get more green lights on the morning you got your better mileage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmadole Posted December 7, 2012 Author Share Posted December 7, 2012 Did you get more green lights on the morning you got your better mileage? Dont Recall but 10 MPG differance seems like alot for a few stops different, Blog is updated with todays milages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott029 Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 (edited) 7.1 miles is not a very long test. Three stop lights could make a big difference. Depends on the speed limit, how long the light stays red, if your car is warm enough for EV stops & starts etc. Best thing to do is try to time the lights so you don't have to stop. Going slower or faster and hitting the lights right makes a huge difference. It's all about playing the MPG game. By spring time with better gas, warmer weather and as a more experienced hybrid driver you'll be hitting 45 mpg consistently. Edited December 7, 2012 by scott029 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlee Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 I posted this in another section: "Today, my battery started with minimum charge. Adding that the ICE had to also work to warm the car, I got 33 mpg going 60-65 mph. I usually get 38 in the morning. I then did a short hop in the city of 1.6 miles, 1.3 of which was on EV. That gave me over 76 mpg. We get an mpg reading for each segment that we drive. It has bothered me a little that the fuel use for these is shown in tenths of a gallon. On a short trip, if you actually use .19 gal, it may be calculating as only having used .1 gal, which can throw your MPG results way off by. If the true amount you use is .06 gal on a short hop, it is probably rounding this up to .1, which will make the MPG look very low. This may not be how the system works. Does anyone know? The gallon readings for Trip 1 & 2 are shown to a hundredth of a gallon, so their MPG figures are more accurate." I know this sounds like bragging, but since the day I got my Fusion I've probably had six stops that got less than a 95% efficiency rating. More than half are 100%. I have a thing about braking. It's why I never had to change my brake pads with 124,000 miles on my previous car, a Pacifica. One of the primary reasons for the benefits of a hybrid (as lolder has stated) is regenerative braking. Work on getting your average to over 95% and you'll see more MPG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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