Justhefacts Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I'll cancel your no with my yes. Tier2 is just out for his own need's, I've been here 25 years and EVERYONE that I talk with is voting NO. Not just NO but HELL NO. These young guy's are only looking for their money. We gave so they could have a job, now the knifes come out. This contract is a slap in the face, truth be told it does't really matter. The IUAW and the company will change this when ever they want. Your 8 year road to full pay is a joke. If they really wanted to bring you up they would front load it. So a guy hired 5 years ago takes 13 years to reach top pay, and a guy hired yesterday takes 8. Bend over 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tier2 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Tier2 is just out for his own need's, I've been here 25 years and EVERYONE that I talk with is voting NO. Not just NO but HELL NO. These young guy's are only looking for their money. We gave so they could have a job, now the knifes come out. This contract is a slap in the face, truth be told it does't really matter. The IUAW and the company will change this when ever they want. Your 8 year road to full pay is a joke. If they really wanted to bring you up they would front load it. So a guy hired 5 years ago takes 13 years to reach top pay, and a guy hired yesterday takes 8. Bend over Before you bash people and the contract you should get your facts straight. A guy hired 5 years ago will be at top pay at ratification. You are exactly the type of person that would vote no as you don't know what the hell you're talking about. It would be best if people like you just fell in line and let the smarter members vote and negotiate for you. You remind me of a legacy member I talked to yesterday that thought the company took his pension away. Wtf? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justhefacts Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Before you bash people and the contract you should get your facts straight. A guy hired 5 years ago will be at top pay at ratification. You are exactly the type of person that would vote no as you don't know what the hell you're talking about. It would be best if people like you just fell in line and let the smarter members vote and negotiate for you. You remind me of a legacy member I talked to yesterday that thought the company took his pension away. Wtf? Because unlike you that needs someone to think for him I can decide for myself. Who ever you talked to while smoking a blunt in the parking lot at lunch means nothing to me. I will never fall inline like you say, falling in line is for the weak. You my nimble minded friend fit that description to the tee. Weak minded mommies boy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downtime1 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Before you bash people and the contract you should get your facts straight. A guy hired 5 years ago will be at top pay at ratification. You are exactly the type of person that would vote no as you don't know what the hell you're talking about. It would be best if people like you just fell in line and let the smarter members vote and negotiate for you. You remind me of a legacy member I talked to yesterday that thought the company took his pension away. Wtf? What's the harm in voting No on this contract, look at how voting down the first contract proposal benefited the members of fca. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niteeyes Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I have been a powerhouse engineer at Ford for the past 25yrs. I have never meet a powerhouse mechanic. guessing maybe they worked powerhouse repair at Rouge yrs ago. doubt there are any left anyway. engineers and operators do 99% of all the repairs. would like to know how many if any this effects. my bet is none. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra12 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Both tiers should be gaining so much more. We owe it to eachother to all vote no. You never know what you can gain if you don't fight for it. You can't alway live in fear. For those who say "how do you know we would get more?". My answer is I don't. I am willing to try though. If they come back with the same deal then so be it, if they come back with more then that's great. Either way you know you tried. I am voting no because I'm not afraid of the unknown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlecountry Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 http://money.cnn.com/2012/11/16/news/companies/hostess-closing/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlecountry Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/11/16/hostess-brands-to-liquidate-lay-off-18500-after-crippling-union-fight/# Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niteeyes Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 it looks like the 1500 for early profit share is not combined with the 8500 signing bonus, 1500 will be paid later in December. correct me if I'm wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
182 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 https://www.solidarity-us.org/node/1936 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptObvious Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 I have been a powerhouse engineer at Ford for the past 25yrs. I have never meet a powerhouse mechanic. guessing maybe they worked powerhouse repair at Rouge yrs ago. doubt there are any left anyway. engineers and operators do 99% of all the repairs. would like to know how many if any this effects. my bet is none. we got about 23 at lima, 2 apprentices. etc. powerhouse mechanic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptObvious Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/11/16/hostess-brands-to-liquidate-lay-off-18500-after-crippling-union-fight/# old news 2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForrestGump Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 (edited) https://www.solidarity-us.org/node/1936 what is this post a link from 100 years ago ? http://americasbesthistory.com/abhtimeline1820.html u know what i always say...always vote no then u see what they gonna do! they gonna did somethin betta Edited November 11, 2015 by ForrestGump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imdevo Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Blue Day/E-Day rule change. We will be able to call in sick only once for a Friday or Monday per calendar year. I guess we can be ill only Tuesdays thru Thursdays!! This is a NO VOTE from me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-bert Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Explain what u mean or what page u got that from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagostamper Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Pg 217c 2 excused after the fact days used on Monday or Friday per year.... I know in our plant if you have time your comiteeman can get them to excuse you after the fact . As long as you are not on y h ed attendence program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-bert Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Pg 217c 2 excused after the fact days used on Monday or Friday per year.... I know in our plant if you have time your comiteeman can get them to excuse you after the fact . As long as you are not on y h ed attendence program. interesting, so that means just 2 days per calender year, wtf yup asnother reason to vote no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weecountry Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 (edited) And with the $1500 from our profit sharing rolled up into the signing bonus, we can't put that money in TESPHE. Screw that. That's a no vote for me, no matter what else is in the contract. Profit sharing will be distributed separately in Dec, read & educate yourself & stop believing what someone else tells you. Edited November 12, 2015 by Weecountry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlecountry Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 interesting, so that means just 2 days per calender year, wtf yup asnother reason to vote no What calendar are they basing it off of, if it's the Roman calendar we need to know this so we can make an informed Vote! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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