Harry Bennet Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 Read "End of the Line" for the inside on how Boeing does business. They specialize on whipsawing entire nations, the carrot being the possibility that Boeing will allow the individual nations a slice of the pie, contracts to build major components for the aircraft they assemble in Washington. Japan builds engines, Boeing gets contracts for sales to JAL. Read the book, what may be good for the market is not necessarily good for UAW workers. what may be good for the market is not necessarily good for UAW workers. WOW :mellow: That says everything I have been trying to say on these posts all in one sentence of course I will still balst off azz hole remarks still but WOW, that sums it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoMoVisteon Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 what may be good for the market is not necessarily good for UAW workers. WOW :mellow: That says everything I have been trying to say on these posts all in one sentence of course I will still balst off azz hole remarks still but WOW, that sums it up It really caught me by surprise too as I'm sure it did with all of us. Time will tell whether it will be a good thing or not. My gut feeling is that it might not, guess we'll have to still sleep on the mattress made of nails until then............... :shrug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
methos Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 what may be good for the market is not necessarily good for UAW workers. WOW :mellow: That says everything I have been trying to say on these posts all in one sentence What's good for the market is not only likely bad for the UAW, it's bad for Ford as well. Isn't that why Ford wants to take the company private? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backtoschool Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 9 OR 10 days away from the announcement from board of directors. Jr. will still be thereand the family still owns the majority stake. The buyouts are "baked in"....this guy wont have any affect on the buyouts. You are absolutelycorrect about the buyouts. This guy is just window dressing for the boys on Wall Street. They have calling for his ouster for a long time. It will help us who have a load of Ford Stock in our TESPHE accounts. When it hits $13 a share, I'm selling everything. I can't believe it will go much higher than that until the Ford family gives up its controlling share in the company. :titanic: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinCityAssembly Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 Mark Fields is running the "Way backwards plan" The new guy will sit back and watch for a bit while Wild Bill and Fields continue to run this company into the ground. CUT THAT CHECK!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romeoboy Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 wow..now we have a ceo with no automobile experience but airplane experience...hmmmm just a thought here...maybe we are heading to The Jetsons era. Ford will be the first car to take to the air....flying cars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchdevil Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 I hope this yields some exciting new cars that people can aspire to own and recognize as being Fords with Ford styling and engineering instead of the mish mash of design elements from discontinued import cars and the dependency on Volvo and Mazda for engineering platforms... Maybe we will see some updates on stale product instead of putting the same old mini-pads in new boxes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unionj Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 (edited) Read "End of the Line" for the inside on how Boeing does business. They specialize on whipsawing entire nations, the carrot being the possibility that Boeing will allow the individual nations a slice of the pie, contracts to build major components for the aircraft they assemble in Washington. Japan builds engines, Boeing gets contracts for sales to JAL. Read the book, what may be good for the market is not necessarily good for UAW workers. Our jobs are being lost, our plants are closing. How much worse can it get? Is it better to be an unemployed ex UAW member or an employed worker in a revamped system that caters to the fact that we are entering a global economy? If NUCOR Steel can flourish in the U.S so can the automotive industry but it will have to totally change the way it operates. www.nucor.com Edited September 6, 2006 by unionj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indycat Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 :shrug: does anyone remember back in January when Fields or Ford or one of the execs made a remark about treating Fomoco like a small business? Would that not mean that as an owner or manager of a "small business", you would actually show up to one of your "stores" to see what was going on? Anybody ever seen one of these guys unannounced? I mean, if you owned a McD's, wouldn't you check on the store? Why wouldn't one of these pampered geeks just show up and see what really goes on in the plant and not the flippin' board room. Mark Fields is running the "Way backwards plan" The new guy will sit back and watch for a bit while Wild Bill and Fields continue to run this company into the ground. CUT THAT CHECK!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSenstad Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 Manage with facts? Are you nuts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indycat Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 Manage with facts? Are you nuts? :blah: just get tired of hearing how jr. is going to "meet with or talk to employees" of fomoco. I doubt he could find his way to Norfolk, Atlanta, Louisville, or any other assembly plant without his assistant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluewolf Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 Wonder if our new CEO is going to trade his Lexus in? :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparks will fly Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 :blah: just get tired of hearing how jr. is going to "meet with or talk to employees" of fomoco. I doubt he could find his way to Norfolk, Atlanta, Louisville, or any other assembly plant without his assistant. They can't keep a secret long enough to show up unannounced, besides they think like our government officials they want all security in place so nothing might happen to them. It is part of the "I'm better than you" mentallity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandusky plastics Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 He has 37 years at an airplane company......? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-150 Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 face it. You guys wouldn't be happy with ANYONE Bill hires. bitch bitch bitch. The guy finally does what you guys have been bitching for... and you're still not happy. Looks like you're still going to have a job now. Boo fricking hoo. There are people that would give their left nut to have what you have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebitchmanslapper Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 Hey Paris you want to chime in on this strategy???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WixomRealityCheck Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 face it. You guys wouldn't be happy with ANYONE Bill hires. bitch bitch bitch. The guy finally does what you guys have been bitching for... and you're still not happy. Looks like you're still going to have a job now. Boo fricking hoo. There are people that would give their left nut to have what you have. Are left nuts usually smaller than the right ones? or vice versa? :shrug: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{CARD-SHARK} Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 I'm suprised the Wizard didn't chime in with a reply about 24 hours prior to the announcement! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-150 Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 Are left nuts usually smaller than the right ones? or vice versa? :shrug: same size but usually sit 1/4 to 1/2 inch lower :happy feet: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScrutenizer Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 (edited) This is great news, finaly an engineer is going to run the show, not a bean counter. Mulally has excellent credentials and a track record of engineering competance. Maybe my ford stock will be worth something some day. Now if he has the balls to clear the decks of the old school good ol boy network of useless yes men in the glass house, and concentrate on plant floor efficiencies and new product developement. Edited September 6, 2006 by TheScrutenizer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikem12 Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 This is great news, finaly an engineer is going to run the show, not a bean counter. Mulally has excellent credentials and a track record of engineering competance. Maybe my ford stock will be worth something some day. Now if he has the balls to clear the decks of the old school good ol boy network of useless yes men in the glass house, and concentrate on plant floor efficiencies and new product developement. that good ole boy network extends all the way down to the plants. They need to do a major house cleaning. Bill said the Company can be turned around but it won't happen without truthful infor coming from the plants. I just don't believe that he was getting the right information. Until we start worrying about quality and stop worrying about the numbers out the door nothing will change. Prepare for the worst but hope for the best. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Alonso Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 Wonder if our new CEO is going to trade his Lexus in? :rolleyes: According to this USA Today article, the answer is 'yes'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluecon Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 I'm suprised the Wizard didn't chime in with a reply about 24 hours prior to the announcement! The Wizard probably never realized FMC owns this site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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