Pioneer Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 (edited) If the selected plants don't get enough to take it, which I think they probably will, but if they don't I hope they offer it at DTP and let others backfill into the positions. I know a few guys with 45+ years that have been waiting for a buyout. One guy is over 70 years old and it's depressing watching him come to work every day. I can think of a lot better things he could be doing. Sad thing is, they outwork most new-hires so I hate to see them go. Edited December 12, 2017 by Pioneer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTP'er Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Yup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildosvt Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 I seen a photo of the 50 year anniversary recognition that my fellow brother @ MAP just received recently. He is ready to go. He hired in 1967. He is in such good shape and If I pointed him out. You wouldn't believe it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted December 13, 2017 Author Share Posted December 13, 2017 One question If hes been here since 1967, why does he need a buyout? Why give up your pension like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 One question If hes been here since 1967, why does he need a buyout? Why give up your pension like that? You still get your pension. The 70k is to get you out the door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted December 13, 2017 Author Share Posted December 13, 2017 You still get your pension. The 70k is to get you out the door. oh ok I misunderstood what it is then. I thought that buyout was in the literal sense that the company gives you 70k to be done with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT32 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 I seen a photo of the 50 year anniversary recognition that my fellow brother @ MAP just received recently. He is ready to go. He hired in 1967. He is in such good shape and If I pointed him out. You wouldn't believe it!! John? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 I know a few guys with 45+ years that have been waiting for a buyout. One guy is over 70 years old and it's depressing watching him come to work every day. I can think of a lot better things he could be doing. I'd think that's being a bit greedy now-its not like you don't have a pension already, which the vast majority of people don't have. Some of the Government workers that I ran across at Aberdeen when I worked there were doing the same thing-but the buyout ship already passed by and wasn't coming back (people had to move from Jersey to MD to keep their jobs) and they could retire due to age/years worked. I have two people that work at my place that are 80 years old(!)...we don't have as much physical labor as line worker would experience (we make microelectronic devices), but one of them is doing it so he doesn't have to be around his wife all the time! That in itself is pretty bad. I know my old man said the same thing when he worked at Edison-guys used to come to work (because that's the only thing they knew) and would just drop dead at work. You never hear anyone on their deathbed ever wish they worked more...very wise advice to keep in the back of your head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hee haw Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 I'd think that's being a bit greedy now-its not like you don't have a pension already, which the vast majority of people don't have. Some of the Government workers that I ran across at Aberdeen when I worked there were doing the same thing-but the buyout ship already passed by and wasn't coming back (people had to move from Jersey to MD to keep their jobs) and they could retire due to age/years worked. I have two people that work at my place that are 80 years old(!)...we don't have as much physical labor as line worker would experience (we make microelectronic devices), but one of them is doing it so he doesn't have to be around his wife all the time! That in itself is pretty bad. I know my old man said the same thing when he worked at Edison-guys used to come to work (because that's the only thing they knew) and would just drop dead at work. You never hear anyone on their deathbed ever wish they worked more...very wise advice to keep in the back of your head. Why is it wrong for a person to decide on their own when to retire? These people hired on when nobody wanted to work for Ford, history will tell you that when these 40 year plus people started the average seniority in production was 5 years. Condition were not as good as today, let them work as long as THEY want. PS I retired at 62, because I decided that was best for ME. That was 10 years ago because I wanted to. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Why is it wrong for a person to decide on their own when to retire? Like I said- you never heard anyone say on their deathbed, I wanted to work more hours.... There is a lot more to life then working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildosvt Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Like I said- you never heard anyone say on their deathbed, I wanted to work more hours.... There is a lot more to life then working. As I've said in my post. This guy, Is is great shape. you would be hard pressed to guess his age, I promise you. . I could share more of his story. But I respect him and he is a private man. One thing to note. We can never assume anything as to why someone works for a long time. It can be due to hard times, Or it can be for GREAT reasons/causes etc. Some would rather leave a legacy worth leaving. Than live a life doing nothing. John? No. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
182 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 (edited) Leave a legacy. Yeah they will put up a plaque dedicated to his 100 years of service. Its always a great idea to keep working until your sick or die. To hell with retiring when you are still in great shape, keep working until you cant drive anymore. Then retire to the nursing home. That guy you said is leaving a legacy and not living a life doing nothing? Guess what working your whole life until you die IS a life doing nothing. Edited December 16, 2017 by 182 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildosvt Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 (edited) Leave a legacy. Yeah they will put up a plaque dedicated to his 100 years of service. Its always a great idea to keep working until your sick or die. To hell with retiring when you are still in great shape, keep working until you cant drive anymore. Then retire to the nursing home. That guy you said is leaving a legacy and not living a life doing nothing? Guess what working your whole like until you die IS a life doing nothing. I am sorry Young low seniority Lady, You are mistaking my words and putting them into your very own. In a very immature way I might add ( shows your level maturity). But its OK! You do you, Have a good night little girl. Edited December 15, 2017 by wildosvt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT32 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 I am sorry Young low seniority Lady, You are mistaking my words and putting them into your very own. In a very immature way I might add ( shows your level maturity). But its OK! You do you, Have a good night little girl. You all sound like a bunch of cackling hens. Its obnoxious 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
182 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 (edited) I am sorry Young low seniority Lady, You are mistaking my words and putting them into your very own. In a very immature way I might add ( shows your level maturity). But its OK! You do you, Have a good night little girl. Thats it? Thats all you got? “When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.”Socrates Edited December 16, 2017 by 182 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildosvt Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 You all sound like a bunch of cackling hens. Its obnoxious She does, Not me. She started the "slander". Have a great weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 62 for Livonia just went up today 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one of a kind Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 (edited) As I've said in my post. This guy, Is is great shape. you would be hard pressed to guess his age, I promise you. . I could share more of his story. But I respect him and he is a private man. One thing to note. We can never assume anything as to why someone works for a long time. It can be due to hard times, Or it can be for GREAT reasons/causes etc. Some would rather leave a legacy worth leaving. Than live a life doing nothing. "A Legacy" really, We're working in a factory. It's Not a profession like the doctor or lawyer. We're work in a job that You really have to go out of your way to get fired from. And your saying it like it's some big accomplishment. Come on really, that's what your going with " we're building a lagecy!" Come on?? Edited February 1, 2018 by one of a kind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildosvt Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 (edited) As I've said in my post. This guy, Is is great shape. you would be hard pressed to guess his age, I promise you. . I could share more of his story. But I respect him and he is a private man. One thing to note. We can never assume anything as to why someone works for a long time. It can be due to hard times, Or it can be for GREAT reasons/causes etc. Some would rather leave a legacy worth leaving. Than live a life doing nothing. "A Legacy" really, We're working in a factory. It's Not a profession like the doctor or lawyer. We're work in a job that You really have to go out of your way to get fired from. And your saying it like it's some big accomplishment. Come on really, that's what your going with " we're building a lagecy!" Come on? I never said it had anything to do with work... Just sayin'. Are you signing for Livonia? Edited February 1, 2018 by wildosvt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one of a kind Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Just trying to be intellectually Honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT32 Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 any updates regarding the thread subject, MAP? or just more high school equivalent arguments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted February 3, 2018 Author Share Posted February 3, 2018 any updates regarding the thread subject, MAP? or just more high school equivalent arguments? Plants closing. Were all unemployed lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT32 Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 Nothing I love more than being forced to work 5-10s just to have them send us home early damn near every night. Id rather work four 10.7s or 11s and have my Friday off back to spend with my family Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted February 20, 2018 Author Share Posted February 20, 2018 Nothing I love more than being forced to work 5-10s just to have them send us home early damn near every night. Id rather work four 10.7s or 11s and have my Friday off back to spend with my family theres no room on the lot for the cars were building right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT32 Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 theres no room on the lot for the cars were building right now Oh theyll find room somewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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