Stupid Question

[Naut2go]

Are there Fog Lights on the new Nautilus? I don't see any not a big deal anyway but just wondering.

[akirby]

Probably not they disappeared a couple of years ago.

[Naut2go]

1 hour ago, akirby said:

Probably not they disappeared a couple of years ago.

I have them on my 2019 Nautilus, they do make a difference.

[SmartKid001]

no front fog light (same as most new cars), only one in the rear.

[akirby]

1 hour ago, SmartKid001 said:

no front fog light (same as most new cars), only one in the rear.

Rear??

[SmartKid001]

13 minutes ago, akirby said:

Rear??

oops, it seems that rear fog light isn't mandatory in the US?

[akirby]

46 minutes ago, SmartKid001 said:

oops, it seems that rear fog light isn't mandatory in the US?

Nope.  Never seen one.

[twintornados]

Maybe you can bolt some of these universal mount fog lamps to the front bumper somewhere....

https://www.ebay.com/itm/3-UNIVERSAL-FOG-LIGHT-BLUE-GLASS-LENS-ULTRA-WHITE-AND-WIRING-KIT-/193050461636?_ul=IL

 

[jniffen]

Well, my wife’s 2015 XC70 does have a switch to increase the brightness of the tail lights, for foggy conditions. 

[JTE]

Farley in his infinite lack of wisdom has been eliminating front fog lights on a lot of Ford and Lincoln vehicles.

Safety be damned for those of us who live in areas subject to frequent heavy fog.

"Cost cutting" to put profits and shareholders above the needs of the customer is their mantra.

That's also why there is no drivers side grab handle for ease of entry/exit, the "carpet" is thinner than pool table felt, the sheet metal is even thinner as you can see the hood skin deflecting as you drive on the highway and why it only has a 1750 lb towing capacity due to a thin weak subframe when compared to the smaller Corsair with the same powertrain that has a 3500 lb towing capacity.

[robertlane]

2 hours ago, JTE said:

Farley in his infinite lack of wisdom has been eliminating front fog lights on a lot of Ford and Lincoln vehicles.

Safety be damned for those of us who live in areas subject to frequent heavy fog.

"Cost cutting" to put profits and shareholders above the needs of the customer is their mantra.

That's also why there is no drivers side grab handle for ease of entry/exit, the "carpet" is thinner than pool table felt, the sheet metal is even thinner as you can see the hood skin deflecting as you drive on the highway and why it only has a 1750 lb towing capacity due to a thin weak subframe when compared to the smaller Corsair with the same powertrain that has a 3500 lb towing capacity.

 

How does this compare to other brands, like GM, Toyota?

[JTE]

2 hours ago, robertlane said:

 

How does this compare to other brands, like GM, Toyota?

Many of them are doing it - Toyota as well as one of the vehicles I was interested in before buying my first Nautilus (which went back as a lemon 🍋) was the RAV4 which was noisy, slow and even more cheap materials than their original "spartan" approach to builds.

Ford's big push led by the ceo was for the electric vehicles and they concentrated far too much on those when the markets clearly were saying they are not for the masses.  I honestly have nothing against EV's, they do serve a purpose but for my driving style and long trips or towing long distances they are useless.

And in the progression of my recent F150's over the years, my 14 King Ranch, then a 16 Platinum, 18 Lariat and finally a 2020 Platinum, I could clearly see just how far those had gone backwards.

It is a truly fine balance between fair and reasonable profits while maintaining quality and features the customers want and/or need.

Also look at when the Maverick was first introduced - massive appeal and they had customers lining up and could have built tens of thousands more due to demand, yet Ford said they were stopping production at a certain number, thus allowing dealers to grape customers with outrageous ADM's.  

It's intro was similar in popularity to the original Mustang for comparison, which is truly rare these days.

But heaven forbid they sell tons and tons of low profit vehicles.