silvrsvt Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 https://cleantechnica.com/2024/04/19/now-1-ev-fast-charging-station-for-every-15-gas-stations-in-usa/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 Not a fair comparison since one EV charger can service 1 vehicle every hour, maybe 2 while a regular gas station can serve anywhere from 24 vehicles per hour up to 120 at a place like Buc-Ees. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 4 hours ago, akirby said: Not a fair comparison since one EV charger can service 1 vehicle every hour, maybe 2 while a regular gas station can serve anywhere from 24 vehicles per hour up to 120 at a place like Buc-Ees. True, but also, not everyone with an EV needs to use an EV charging station. In over 5k miles, we have used an EV charger once (well, twice if you count the freebie we got while we shopped). I've used a gas station twice in the past 10 days with my truck in only 250 miles (towing fuel economy stinks). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 37 minutes ago, fordmantpw said: True, but also, not everyone with an EV needs to use an EV charging station. In over 5k miles, we have used an EV charger once (well, twice if you count the freebie we got while we shopped). I've used a gas station twice in the past 10 days with my truck in only 250 miles (towing fuel economy stinks). Agree it’s not 1 for 1 when most owners can charge at home. But as the market expands more people will need public chargers so it has to be a lot more than we have currently so it’s still a misleading statistic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted April 22 Author Share Posted April 22 On 4/20/2024 at 10:42 AM, akirby said: Not a fair comparison since one EV charger can service 1 vehicle every hour, maybe 2 while a regular gas station can serve anywhere from 24 vehicles per hour up to 120 at a place like Buc-Ees. But there are a lot of variables with that- Not everyone will be at 0-10% when they recharge Fast charging is level 3 that can recharge a 60 kwh battery in under 30 minutes from empty. Superchargers can charge battery's to 80% in 15 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 3 hours ago, silvrsvt said: But there are a lot of variables with that- Not everyone will be at 0-10% when they recharge Fast charging is level 3 that can recharge a 60 kwh battery in under 30 minutes from empty. Superchargers can charge battery's to 80% in 15 minutes. Still a huge gap and quoting that statistic is misleading. They should have at the very least quoted # chargers vs number of gas pumps. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tico Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 In countries where EV adoption is really high like Norway, most owners charge at home. This more critical than having public chargers everywhere. People need incentives to install home chargers and apartments need incentives to install them too. Public chargers make you pay many times per kilowatt what your home service does. Public is only neede if your going beyond 200 miles before you get back home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 15 minutes ago, Tico said: In countries where EV adoption is really high like Norway, most owners charge at home. This more critical than having public chargers everywhere. People need incentives to install home chargers and apartments need incentives to install them too. Public chargers make you pay many times per kilowatt what your home service does. Public is only neede if your going beyond 200 miles before you get back home. You are incorrect to believe most drivers in the U.S. can install home chargers. Older homes require service upgrades and a lot of areas don’t have the infrastructure to support it. It’s one thing for an apartment to install a few chargers and something entirely different to install dozens that would most likely be in use concurrently (and require rigorous scheduling if they can’t provide enough chargers for each tenant.). Readily available public chargers are a requirement for widespread adoption. It’s not physically or economically viable for everyone to charge at home. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted April 27 Author Share Posted April 27 (edited) Most people who own older homes also don’t normally buy EVs due to income. Plus there are work arounds that have been developed for houses with 100 Amp service. Some electric companies offer incentives/rebates to upgrade service. Here is one example: https://www.firstenergycorp.com/help/electric-vehicles/nj-ev/new-jersey-ev.html Edited April 27 by silvrsvt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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