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Well according the to the document posted in the future Ford post-the BEV Escape will hit in 2026 or so... The Maverick and Bronco Sport are scheduled for production till 2032 or later....only thing I see happening is the Bronco Sport gets a minor refresh and hybrid in the next 18-24 months. The Escape/Corsair will be a bit of an orphan since they are built on a slightly different C2 platform and the Kuga is dying off soon in the EU...not sure about the plans for China.I don't see a BEV Maverick/Bronco Sport till after the start of next decade, unless battery prices drop dramatically and are on par with profit margins for ICE for those products.

The issue with the S and Y is that they look like a S/3 that turned into a blood swollen tick. The major disadvantage to them is they have no high cargo area in the rear that would be offered in a traditional 2 box shape like the Escape for example. The thing to keep in mind about the Mach E is that its a translational model-much of it is based on C2 platform and at best a second gen EV design from Ford. There is going to be a gap for the time being till it moves to a cleansheet/dedicated EV platform and other improvements.I'm sure the efficiency gap that apparently appears will be closed as time goes on.

Even though F-150 is Ford's flagship, the mid and small size markets are heating up. Ford did well with Maverick. I think they could have done better with Ranger, especially since it's been around for some time. They keep annoying customers with the F-150 by decontenting so many features that shoppers are looking elsewhere. To make things even worse, Ford can't produce their hot products in a timely manor. I gave up after waiting 2 years for a Bronco. I then waited 6 months to get an F-150 and that's with the help of my dealer working with Ford to move my priority up. Last I looked, Ranger sales were down 22%. I'm curious to see if things get better with the new model, since everyone else has something new as well.

That's the Ranger I'd like to see.

Tacoma has a sunroof ,ventilated seats, power up and down tailgate, a better balance of hard button vs on screen controls, optional white or amber fog lights, lights at the top of the bed. Hybrid has a regular 8 speed transmission.

See that's my point, the mach-e has a higher drag coefficient, but looks way better than a model Y. I tend to prefer curvier designs for smaller vehicles. But boxier designs for larger ones. Something like a curvaceous truck just looks strange imo.

I prefer smooth aerodynamic shapes over boxy shapes not only for their efficiency, but also because of aesthetics. To me an Tesla Model Y shape looks better than a boxy SUV. And yes, the original Ford GT40 was one of the most beautiful cars ever designed by my taste, though I suspect Cd was not that low by modern standards. What’s important is that if a MachE has a Cd of around 0.285 (not well documented so accuracy questionable) and a Tesla Model Y is around 0.23, or other BEVs now at or below 0.21, then required battery size to offset drag will make the car heavier and more expensive to manufacture. If Tesla’s data above is correct and Model Y can do 4 miles per kWh while Mach E only 3, it puts the Ford at a huge disadvantage. Obviously frontal area dimensions are as important as Cd. It will be interesting to see whether Tesla can design a smaller Model 2 with a low Cd if shaped similar to the Model Y. If they succeed and can push efficiency to around 5 miles per kWh or higher, it’s going to give them a significant cost advantage.

I think the smart thing would be to diverge with the Bronco sport and escape as much as possible. Give the escape more radical, sporty styling compared to the blockiness of the bronco, and make it a street performance crossover. Get rid of any and all overlap between the two, while making the escape a more compelling stand alone product.

FCEV is one type of electric vehicle. Ford is being consistent in applying the E-Transit name.

You know it's bad when we get decontented from the ROW Ranger....don't quite get that one. I'm sure we'll get some additional packages, but I doubt anything like the Platinum. I have driven F-150's just about all my life, but it's outgrown me, and I'll be getting a mid-size something before long. Being loyal to Ford is a little tough in this instance , but we can say it's better than a Frontier. I'm sure pricing won't reflect the less features, but we'll see! Glad you like your 2022 Tremor......nice truck?

I don’t hate them I hate when people overrate them and give them more credit than they deserve.

There is no message or signal that indicates regen on my 22, even with ForScan changes. I bought a iDash gauge, and with that I can monitor the DPF %, which is not actually spot load, but the % of the 500 mile regen interval. It also shows ”ACT”ive or”OFF” for regen status. With ForScan, you can add a monitor for DPF soot load %, and you can add a toggle to turn “Automatic Regen” on/off. I use the iDash to watch when the truck is approaching the 500 mile trigger, and will turn off auto regen if I’m not in a position to let it run completely. I’ll turn it back on, when I have a chance to run about 25-30 miles at highway speed. It seems every time I get to the mileage trigger, the soot load is still less than 70%.

Thank you for sharing this GM press release 7Mary3. You are correct, both Ford and GM have moved away from the fleet dumping business model emphasizing overall fleet vehicle sales volume at low or no profit margins to one that emphasizes higher margin services and software. I added a thread topic in the Competing Products part of this site in case any members want to discuss this announcement from GM more generally.