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Hi Xray and thanks for the updated information. Okay bigcam, that explains it. "88R" is a late addition "option". It was not in the previous version I looked though. It is not really an "option" as we think of options. It is really a voluntary delete of the "Standard Luxury Leather Trimmed Front Seats - (with "Multi-contour seat DELETE)", and is recommended for those who want their vehicles now and are willing to live without the multi-contour seats (at least temporarily). This is due to the parts/commodity shortages. So if a buyer chooses this option, their Expedition will not be held up waiting for the Multi-contour seats, and may be able to be scheduled sooner. It does not mention whether the included seats will still be heated/cooled. My guess is yes. But it is simply a guess. Better to ask your Dealership or call Ford Customer Service for an accurate answer (eventually...lol). Good luck.
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Hi bigcam. I took a quick look at the Dealer Order Guide and could not find an "88R" option or option package. Good luck.
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Are there fees for Ford Motor Credit loans?
bbf2530 replied to sajohnson's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
Hi sajohnson. I completely understand. Everyone's circumstances are different. Which is why I always try to convince others to ask for advice if they like...But no one else is living our life, so in the end, we all need to take our own personal circumstances into account and make a decision based on what is best for our life. I wish you the best of luck! -
Are there fees for Ford Motor Credit loans?
bbf2530 replied to sajohnson's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
Hi sajohnson. Assuming you are getting a return better than 0.9% on your Index Fund (jeez...let's hope so?), take the FMC loan, leave the money in the fund and make the monthly payments. When we purchased our 2018 MKZ, Lincoln Motor Credit was offering 0% on their loans (up to 60 months). So we paid off $10,000 on our best member-perks/points credit card (for the points, since we pay it off in full every month anyway) and took the Lincoln Motor Credit loan for the balance. In that way, we were able to keep the balance of the money invested, and pay the loan off at 0% interest over the next 5 years. And if you are not getting >0.9% on your Index Fund? Find a new Financial Consultant. ?? Let us know how you make out and good luck. -
Hi Lina. I concur with what they said. However, it is simply conjecture at this point. Good luck.
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Are there fees for Ford Motor Credit loans?
bbf2530 replied to sajohnson's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
Hi sajohnson. Through Ford Motor Credit? Not that I have ever heard of or experienced. If a Dealer uses an outside loan source, quite possibly yes. But that should not occur unless an individual has insufficient credit to finance through Ford Motor Credit. Good luck. -
Hi Neil. Happy to hear it all worked out! Let us know how things go when your vehicle arrives, and good luck. ?
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Hi Neil. If Ford Customer Relations "...got you on the phone with someone at the Dealership...", and now the Dealership is giving you the run-around, then call Ford Customer Relations back and let them know what has happened up until now and that you are getting the runaround. Tell them what you wrote here...i.e. that you called Ford Customer Relations previously, and FCR "got you on the phone with someone at the dealership, who swore up and down that they would never do that, and that he would look into it and get right back with me. I haven't heard from him in several days, and every time I call the dealership they say I need to talk with a different person who doesn't call me back". I would also make these suggestions: - Forget phone calls, emails, texts etc. to the Dealership (if possible). Physically go there. There are better chances of success if we go to the Dealership and deal with people face to face (if possible). It is harder to B.S., spin/lie to a customer when the customer is standing right in front of them. It is also harder for them to tell you so-and-so "is not in today", if you see them sitting at their desk. - You've given them enough time to take care of this, now go to the Dealership and speak to the Sales Manager or General Manager of the Dealership, not the salespeople. - Always ask for and take down the name of everyone you speak to. Ask them how to spell it so they know you are writing it down..."I'm sorry, your name was...?" If you go to the Dealership, bring a small pad, take it out and write their name down in front of them, if you are bad with names. It is often harder for someone to pass the buck if they know their name is involved. Hey, some people are simply dishonest, will lie to your face and don't care, but some people do care and it can make a difference. . Keep us updated and good luck.
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Hi Neil. If you have a signed purchase contract with all pricing (including X-Plan) clearly listed, , then what they are doing is unethical and you should push and fight it. Even according to X-Plan rules, a Dealer can not require a Plan buyer to purchase Dealer add-ons. And you should not even be "...willing to wiggle some on my pricing". In addition, according to Ford, a Dealer can get themselves in trouble by Factory/retail ordering a vehicle (thus getting priority manufacturing), then refusing to sell it to the original buyer in order to sell it to another customer for a higher price. You should definitely contact Ford Customer Relations and report them. You can contact the DPS, but not too sure how far that will get you, for various reasons. How far this will all get you is not predictable. Hopefully the threat (and follow through) of you calling Ford will get them to back off their bluff. Let us know how you make out and good luck.
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18" vs 20" vs 21" Wheels for the Nautilus
bbf2530 replied to jniffen's topic in Lincoln Motor Company Discussion
Hi T hawker. Just as an FYI: To keep the proper overall wheel diameter (for wheel-well clearance/fit and speedometer/odometer accuracy), you would need to go from a 40 series tire to a 50 series tire...assuming you keep the same tire width. You would not want to go to a narrower tire, so a 60 series tire would be too tall (by two sizes). For each inch smaller in wheel size, we go one sidewall ratio size taller. So when downsizing from a 20" to 18" inch wheel, that would mean increasing sidewall ratio from a 40 to a 50 series tire. Again, assuming using the same tread width tires for both wheels. Good luck. -
Ford Preferred/Budget Pkg Service Plans
bbf2530 replied to Latebraking's topic in F-Series SuperDuty Forum
Hi OREGUN. Even with the PremiumCare contract, in order to have LED lighting repair/replacement coverage, you need to add the LED lighting option. I would also recommend adding the Key Coverage. Good luck. -
Personal Offers and Rebates
bbf2530 replied to S. Bouchard's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
Hi S. B. Call Ford Customer Relations yourself (or the number on the PCO, if there is one) and find out which of the two PCO's is still valid, which is not, and what is the real story. Relying on the information you provided: Even if the first one is invalid due to an "address change", the second one with your correct current address would then be valid. Let us know how you make out and good luck. -
18" vs 20" vs 21" Wheels for the Nautilus
bbf2530 replied to jniffen's topic in Lincoln Motor Company Discussion
Hi jniffen. I don't have the vehicle here to check the manufacturers placard for the correct tire pressure. However, 31PSI sounds as though the tires may have been pretty underinflated. Especially if the wheels were 20 or 21's. Underinflated tires can certainly add to any strange ride perceptions, just as overinflated tires can. And most Dealers are not regularly checking the tire pressures on their stock vehicles. Let us know how you make out and good luck with your shopping. -
Car Wash? Bad Idea? Safe on the Paint?
bbf2530 replied to danielj's topic in F-Series SuperDuty Forum
HI Allen. Oh yes I do! It absolutely brakes your heart! ? -
Car Wash? Bad Idea? Safe on the Paint?
bbf2530 replied to danielj's topic in F-Series SuperDuty Forum
Hi Allen. I think a lot of people mistakenly still refer to the spinning cloth strip units as "Brushes". -
Hi Bob. Answers will vary. In general, with maintenenace, a good professionally applied ceramic coating will last 2-3 years. Perhaps up to 5 in the extreme, with maintenance and in a milder environment. And as mentioned, contrary to what some people tend to believe, it is not maintenance free. See here: https://www.google.com/search?q=how+long+will+a+ceramic+car+treatment+last&client=firefox-b-1-d&ei=tP8KYoa_BpqeptQPv_S48A8&ved=0ahUKEwiG6eehxYD2AhUaj4kEHT86Dv4Q4dUDCA4&oq=how+long+will+a+ceramic+car+treatment+last&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAwyBAgAEEcyBAgAEEcyBAgAEEcyBAgAEEcyBAgAEEcyBAgAEEcyBAgAEEcyBAgAEEc6BwgAEEcQsANKBAhBGABKBQhAEgExSgQIRhgAUKcGWKcGYIY0aAFwAngAgAEAiAEAkgEAmAEAoAEByAEIwAEB&sclient=gws-wiz Good luck.
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Car Wash? Bad Idea? Safe on the Paint?
bbf2530 replied to danielj's topic in F-Series SuperDuty Forum
Hi muggerz and dnaielj. No, there is no waiting period before you can wax a new vehicle. The paint on a new vehicle is already fully cured. What you are thinking of (or have heard), is that we need to wait for the paint to fully cure (for lack of a better term) when paint work has been performed on a vehicle, such as after an accident etc. The recommended waiting period before waxing fresh paint work generally varies by the opinion of the body/paint shop that performs the paint work. Usually no less than 1 month. And I have been told as much as two months. However, I digress...so back to your question: No, there is no waiting period for waxing a new vehicle fresh from the factory. You can wax it the day you bring it home from the Dealer. Good luck. -
Hi TenTex. Just to avoid confusion: Invoice and Z-Plan/A-Plan price would be two different prices. Which price are you asking for? Do you have a Z-Plan PIN? If you do, it is easy to get an exact Plan price from a Dealership. I can't supply them (too general a question) since guesstimates are not generally accurate, but you should be aware they are two different prices. Good luck.
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Hi JO302. No. As per the Ford Partner X-Plan PIN eligibility rules below: "Partner Recognition: An eligible Partner Recognition employee or retiree may generate up to two (2) PINs per calendar year to be used towards the purchase/lease of a new vehicle for them or members of their households as noted below (see PIN Generation for details): Employees (full time, part-time and contract), retirees and spouses of eligible Partner companies (suppliers, fleets, etc.) and members of specific organizations or groups. Residents of the same household as listed above (driver’s license required for proof of residency). Participation is by invitation only as determined by Ford Motor Company and Lincoln Motor Company. Not all suppliers, fleets, etc. are eligible." Good luck.
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Hi JO302. Not sure if you were also made aware of the Ford X-Plan Partner Company program. If you and/or your spouse work for a recognized Ford Partner Company, you can obtain the X-Plan Partner Company code from the HR department and use it to generate a PIN on the Ford X-Plan Partner Company site. Here is a partial list of participating companies: https://www.oxmoorflm.com/ford-a-x-z-plans/x-plan-partner-companies/ Due to the fact that Partner Companies are constantly being added, it is hard to find one all encompassing list. So you can find more lists by looking through here: https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Ford+Partner+Company+listings The Ford X-Plan Partner Company website: https://www.fordpartner.com/partnerweb/login.do Good luck.
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Hi HRG. Still listed on another Ford site: https://www.fordgenuineautoparts.com/oem-parts/ford-gfci-integrated-cord-vlc5z10b706b Worth another try, this time ordering directly, instead of through your Dealer (if that was what you did last time)? ? Good luck.
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D Plan pricing for employee no longer at dealer?
bbf2530 replied to gom's topic in Production and Sales
Hi gom. His Sales Manager was wrong and should have known better. ? Good luck. -
D Plan pricing for employee no longer at dealer?
bbf2530 replied to gom's topic in Production and Sales
Hi gom. "He" meaning who? A Dealership employee or your brother-in-law? Either way, whoever told you that information is incorrect. A VIN is not necessary in order to generate PIN. In fact, normally a PIN in hand is necessary before most Dealers will even seriously discuss AZD-Plan pricing with a customer, or show them the Invoice with the Plan pricing etc. PINS are good for one year from the date of generation. And obviously, VIN's would not be available a year in advance. Your brother-in-law could have generated a D-Plan PIN for you the day before he left employment and it would be good for one year. Did not/do not need a VIN. And yes, another employee who is not related to you could get themself and/or the Dealership in trouble if they were audited, since you would not be a proper family relation (i.e. in this case, a brother-in-law). I realize all of this information is a bit too late now. But it may come in handy in the future, if your brother-in-law should return to working at a Ford/Lincoln Dealership. Keep us updated and good luck. -
D Plan pricing for employee no longer at dealer?
bbf2530 replied to gom's topic in Production and Sales
Hi gom. This is a bit confusing. AXZD PINS are good for one year from the date of generation. That applies whether the employee leaves the company, dies etc. All your brother-in-law had needed to do was generate a D-Plan PIN when you ordered the vehicle. It would have been valid for D-Pan pricing at he time of order, and also would have been valid when your new vehicle arrived. In other words, the agreed upon price was not "contingent upon continued employment for 5+ months after the date of order." He simply should have generated the PIN for you before he left. And it would not have mattered whether your brother-in-law was still employed by the Dealer when your truck actually arrived. The PIN would still have been valid (again, for 1 year from date of generation). So If you are saying you ordered without a PIN, and your brother-in-law never generated one before he left, then essentially there is nothing that can be done, unless someone at Ford Corporate hears your plea and has mercy on you. Unfortunately, that is unlikely. The problem with having another Dealership employee generate PIN is you would not be properly related to that employee, and the employee could lose all future PIN benefits, as you already noted. Sorry if I got something wrong about your situation. Keep us updated and good luck. -
Hi CBears. Not a stupid question at all. Usually...You do not want to drive at a constant speed for long periods of time during the break-in period. If you absolutely must drive on the highway for a long period of time during break-in, try to vary your speed by +10 mph every 5-10 minutes or so. From my Lincoln Owners Manual: "BREAKING-IN You need to break in new tires for approximately 300 mi (480 km). During this time, your vehicle may exhibit some unusual driving characteristics. Avoid driving too fast during the first 1,000 mi (1,600 km). Vary your speed frequently and change up through the gears early. Do not labor the engine. Do not tow during the first 1,000 mi (1,600 km)." Check the Index in your Owners Manual, under "Breaking-in", for the specific recommendations for your particular vehicle. Let us know how you make out and good luck.