fuzzymoomoo

lol probably not. That yard is their main hub. It's enormous.

especially since it seems the company is absolutely desperate to do fill demand with one shift...

somewhere in the 1996-1998 range

Trever Bayne is hot garbage

they did it to appease the plant workers. Some good that did....

yeah it sure seems like you can prepare to be disappointed bigly

I would argue it already is. FYFY

Because moving at a snails pace is too fast for Ford

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/general-motors/2017/11/07/gm-offers-escalade-discount-lincoln-debuts-navigator/107431916/

I checked this afternoon because I was bored No change

that's even worse

Talk to your salesman, he should have it for you by now.

I can't take Bob Lutz seriously. He sounds like a bitter old man.

another refresh?

FWIW, Aviator is a 2020 model.

*citation needed*

MKC and/or MKX refresh

when you put it that way, it totally is!

I would have thought that over 12 years they could gain more than 1 second.....

it's a FRAP thing too. My rep there was fucking terrible (he got voted out this year) but I did see him almost every day. He did eventually start avoiding me because he couldn't answer my questions. Edit: I wonder if it's partly because you're trades. I can't remember the last time I saw the trades reps on the floor at MAP during a normal shift. I know who he is and I do see him now and again, but it normally around special events. I think he mostly stays in his office unless he's needed.

I will say this. Even though almost all they spew is bullshit, we still have it better than the Teamsters. At least we see our representatives regularly, if not every day despite the bullshit. I would know, I was a teamster for 3 years before coming to Ford. Not once did I ever see my rep. I didn't even know what local I was part of.

Ogden Utah

Call your salesman, it was delivered yesterday

speak for yourself, about half of them are above even me ?