Spied: '09 Lincoln MKS under hood…

[akirby]

I'm positive that I read that Mark Fields advised that the MKS would come with a V-8 engine. Even as options the Thunderbird 3.9 liter V-8 or the Yamaha 4.4 liter V-8 would be fantastic.

 

That was last year. The 4.4L V8 was super expensive because it was outsourced to Yamaha and it only puts out 315 hp. The 3.7L V6 is much cheaper and will put out up to 330 hp naturally aspirated with direct injection and full VCT. The 3.9L V8 was also more expensive (it's gone now in case you hadn't heard) and only put out 280 hp, possibly 300-320 with some major changes. And the V6 should get slightly better fuel economy than either of the V8s. There is absolutely no reason to offer a V8 with the MKS right now.

[351cid]

Yes thats what I am saying, the turbo won't help you haul stuff. an NA engine is better than Turbo at that.

 

 

Depends on how it's tuned. Every tractor trailer you pass on the road has a turbo (or two)

[NickF1011]

Don't congratulate Ford until it is out. It could still be cancelled for some stupid reason in the next two years it takes to get it out of prototypes.

 

Less than 2 years if Blue II is accurate. March '09 I believe he said for the MKS.

[abe_lincoln78]

I found it disturbing when some people on this forum said the 500 and Fusion did not come out with new powertrains. The reason this is disturbing is that ford put out these two models with radical changes to the powertrains, a new transmission.

 

 

In fact, if I am correct, both cars came out with two new trannies. For the 500, both transmissions were completely new. Lets start by looking at the Taurus before it. In that car you had the option of two engines, the pushrod 3.0 and the DOHC 3.0. Trust me, you'll have to look a lot longer for the DOHC than the pushrod engine. But thats not the scoop here, we are all aware that the engine in the 500 was the DOHC version that was in so few Tauruses. The real story is in that transmission. The old taurus had a 4 speed tranny, which owed its most recent incarnation to evolution from the lessons learned on previous 4 speed automatic transmissions in the taurus and ford minivans.

 

The new transmission had 6 gears. Because of this, gear ratios were not only closer than the old transmission, but owners could also enjoy a higher first gear ratio and lower overdrive gear ratio. The benifits of this transmission were better gas mileage and acceleration equivalent to that of more powerful vehicles of the same year. This was a completely new transmission. I have not done any research on this, but I would be surprised if more than 10% of the parts in the new tranny are interchangeable with the old.

 

Also, the CVT transmission was available the same year as the launch of the 500. As far as I am aware, however, there weren't any advantages to that one. If I remember correctly, the 6 speed enjoyed better fuel mileage.

 

Then we look at the fusion and Edge. The fusion not only got the 6 speed from the 500, but the 4 cylinder model had a new 5 speed auto. The engine also made more power than the old 3.0. And the Edge started with the 3.5.

 

True, none of these cars came with a completely new powertrain, but each one was introduced with something new, and possibly revolutionary.

[twintornados]

The 6 speed in the new Taurus is a joint development venture with GM, the 6 speed in the Fusion is from Aisin.