joihan777 Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 In NYC, that'd be a "Voive"? You've got a lot of noive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mettech Posted October 10, 2007 Author Share Posted October 10, 2007 Does anyone know what the profit is on a Focus? I find it hard to believe that Ford will make anything on Verve unless it's in the price range of the Focus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchdevil Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 I like Ford Fuck. Just insert the new Verve concept into the picture... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Does anyone know what the profit is on a Focus? I find it hard to believe that Ford will make anything on Verve unless it's in the price range of the Focus. Nobody knows what the profit is on any vehicle. If they tell you they do, they are full of shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CougarXR7 Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 I was in Hell, MI. back in '87..my kids got a hoot telling their friends that they were going to Hell...quiet little place.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 Nobody knows what the profit is on any vehicle. If they tell you they do, they are full of shit. Well its been reported several times and by different sources that on avg that a Luxury SUV like the Navigator or Escalade make 10-15K profit per vehicle sold... I haven't seen any estimates on every day cars like the Fusion/accord/Camry...the normally say break even or lose money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstock Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 Just insert the new Verve concept into the picture... and the Mercury MIDDLEFINGER! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchdevil Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 and the Mercury MIDDLEFINGER! If Lincoln stuck to it's Navigator and Aviator naming convention they could have done a version called the Masturbator... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White99GT Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 Ford Fuck, Mercury Middlefinger, and Lincoln Masturbator. Now these are nameplates that will not be easily forgotten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inteller Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Ford Fuck, Mercury Middlefinger, and Lincoln Masturbator. Now these are nameplates that will not be easily forgotten. now now, we can't go and steal away all of the Dodge Charger/RAM pickup customers. If they could call their vehicles that they would, since it is certainly how they act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKII Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 (edited) Does anyone know what the profit is on a Focus? I find it hard to believe that Ford will make anything on Verve unless it's in the price range of the Focus. When Mulally was reviewing the company's 2008 product line last September, for example, he was told that Ford loses close to $3,000 every time a customer buys a Focus compact, according to one executive. "Why haven't you figured out a way to make a profit?" he asked. Executives explained that Ford needed the high sales volume to maintain the company's CAFE, or corporate average fuel economy, rating and that the plant that makes the car is a high-cost UAW factory in Michigan. "That's not what I asked," he shot back. "I want to know why no one figured out a way to build this car at a profit, whether it has to be built in Michigan or China or India, if that's what it takes." Nobody had a good answer. http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/conte...age_top+stories Edited October 30, 2007 by MKII Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wescoent Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Does anyone know what the profit is on a Focus? I find it hard to believe that Ford will make anything on Verve unless it's in the price range of the Focus. It all depends on the fixed cost of the plant that assembles it. If it's in a US assembly plant, you're right, it wouldn't even begin to make money until Focus prices or above. But, if built in Brazil, China, or India, the fixed cost of the plant is low enough to not badly eat into the sum total of profits per vehicle, and Ford will make money. High quality and reliable Fiestas will also result in happy owners more likely to trade into Focuses and Fusions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 The Focus would make money in the U.S if Ford didn't have to put cash on the hood to get somebody to buy it, and that has nothing to do with the cost of labor. It has to do with the cost of poor engineering and design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 The Focus would make money in the U.S if Ford didn't have to put cash on the hood to get somebody to buy it, and that has nothing to do with the cost of labor. It has to do with the cost of poor engineering and design. Name a small car that Ford has made money on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 (edited) Name a small car that Ford has made money on? good point...in fact name a MANUFACTURER that has!!!!!!!!! I think they are aimed at reducing CAFE penalties more than anything....that is unless they are high priced to begin with....aka 30k Minis Edited October 31, 2007 by Deanh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 Name a small car that Ford has made money on? Nobody can answer that question without Dearborn opening it's books to the public. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 Nobody can answer that question without Dearborn opening it's books to the public. Better question to ask...has Any manufacture based in the US (not Japanese Transplants) ever made money on small cars? Not saying it can't be done, but its very hard to do to proven otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 Better question to ask...has Any manufacture based in the US (not Japanese Transplants) ever made money on small cars? Please see post #41. Substitute any manufacturers name for "Dearborn" that you wish to ask about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolita Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 Here is the 5 door "unmasked"... Cant post them.. here is the link Link to Fiesta pix Looks tame after the 3 door Verve, but still hot for a B car IMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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