MTPwife Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Latest rumor is that there will not be a 3 shift at WAP & that high seniority from WAP & MTP will be working the 2 shifts. Anyone else hear this or anything else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTP'er Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Latest rumor is that there will not be a 3 shift at WAP & that high seniority from WAP & MTP will be working the 2 shifts. Anyone else hear this or anything else? Ummm.........yup! :reading: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtprubberrat Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Heard the same thing we will all be going next door and the low seniority is out. Who knows it's all rumors and no one really knows shit.! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTPwife Posted November 12, 2008 Author Share Posted November 12, 2008 What's the seniority like at WAP. Hubby has 94 seniority.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtprubberrat Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 I looks like they have a handfull of high 88 and better then theres a large group of 93 then the rest are all low like 96 and lower to 2002. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emigh Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 (edited) I looks like they have a handfull of high 88 and better then theres a large group of 93 then the rest are all low like 96 and lower to 2002. So are you saying that July of 96 could be gone? Just wondering? I had heard that '99 and less would be gone. Edited November 12, 2008 by Emigh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvsked Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 whats the senority at MTP? 64----1/15/95 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordtpworker1993 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 whats the senority at MTP? They have more than you, you better go apply for that Nissan job! :reading: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firedude26 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 (edited) :reading: im hope you think the coffee drinking person is cool, what a waste of a post. then again............. wheres "THE POD"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! When we need him.............. Edited November 13, 2008 by firedude26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robskimtp Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Latest rumor is that there will not be a 3 shift at WAP & that high seniority from WAP & MTP will be working the 2 shifts. Anyone else hear this or anything else? Heard same thing today. Flier coming out tommorow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldFordJim Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 It is true. My son is at WAP and he has 94 seniority and he was told yesterday that he could be gone. That anyone with less than 15 yrs could be gone. He's hitting it lucky though, he also found out that he's being recalled back to Livonia between now and EOY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenhawkings Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 DTP is adding another shift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganTruck_Mafia Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 DTP is adding another shift. Has it been established who is going to fill those 1000 jobs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homerhero Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 KTP has offerd 275 postion to MTP members. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michigander Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Heck we got guy's in their 70's and 80's at the MTP plant..Anybody under 50 is a young Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTPwife Posted November 13, 2008 Author Share Posted November 13, 2008 Can someone explain what the 6,10,15 agreement is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTP_UAW Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Can someone explain what the 6,10,15 agreement is? Yes, if you have more than 6 years in, you can bump someone with less than 6 years ... and so on. So if, for instance, you have 9 years in, you can only bump someone with less than 6 years. BTW, I hope it was just bad timing, but the day after the sign-up sheet came down to transfer to KTP, they announced in the bulletin that WAP's 3rd shift was cancelled. I think only 28 or so people signed up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michigander Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 In the local agreement on page 53 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lackanookey Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 In the local agreement on page 53 Michigander, the section of the agreement that you are talking about is on p.58-59 in the local agreement. Employees with 15 or more years seniority will be allowed to displace employees with less than 15 years seniority. Employees with 10 or more years seniority, but less that 15 years will be allowed to displace employees with less than 10 years seniority. Employees with 6 or more years seniority, but less than 10 years, will be allowed to displace employees with less than 6 years seniority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganTruck_Mafia Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Is this some agreement between Wayne and MTP? It's a Local 900 agreement. But like all agreements, they are subject to change..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambulldog615 Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 At risk of losing their job??? Your son might have heard what you say, But everyone in there hears something everyday. What you want to believe and who you believe is up to you. It would take alot more than 1,000 MTP to bump out up to 15years of senority in WAP. I dont know how it is with in the same local? but I do believe there is a 5 to 1 bump rule??? You can worry yourself to death in there if you wanted to! Untill it's in black and white........ NO ONE KNOWS!!!! Wanna hear what I heard? DTP is opening a 3rd shift and thats where most MTP will be placed. WAP is only accepting MTP people with jobs available in WAP. WAP cancelled their 3rd shift ideas again saying it wasn't economical to open a 3rd shift. :happy feet: :happy feet: :happy feet: I do believe it's the MTP right to bump into WAP "if" they have the time. But saying that, I dont think it's right for WAP to open a 3rd shift just to get the MTP into WAP when WAP knows now isnt a good time to open a 3rd shift. Then when the MTP are let into WAP the company says"Oh the 3rd shift isn't gonna work out" then lay off all WAP people to keep the MTP people is WRONG! One thing I have always noticed which is a whole new can of worms is: The MTP has always been the money maker. People at MTP were always on over-time and getting use to those big over-time checks. Never heard a peep from MTP when times were good! :boring: :boring: Now that times are hard or even when they got got for that matter and over time wasn't there I never heard so much BS and whinning! WAP during any amount of down-time never got the chance to work through it at the MTP? MTP always get to go to WAP but NEVER the other way arround? WHY'S THAT? To me thats where they laid their beds. Thats where they can stay or in the gen bank till they can be placed. Is what I think will happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTP'er Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Here is something to ponder. So if WAP isn't putting on a third shift and MTP is idled for retooling and not closed that mean MTP'ers will have first recall rights to there current jobs @ MTP and WAP people will have to post for jobs or work available. Sounds to me that the shoe is on the other foot now. :shades: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emigh Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Here is something to ponder. So if WAP isn't putting on a third shift and MTP is idled for retooling and not closed that mean MTP'ers will have first recall rights to there current jobs @ MTP and WAP people will have to post for jobs or work available. Sounds to me that the shoe is on the other foot now. :shades: Sorry, I also have heard that MTP will be going to Dearborn. :happy feet: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSMJ Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Rumor going around at BK is that in 010 everyone laidoff will get a shot a the new MTP. It will go by seniority nationwide and there will be no inzone priority! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTP'er Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 during any amount of down-time never got the chance to work through it at the MTP? MTP always get to go to WAP but NEVER the other way arround? WHY'S THAT? To me thats where they laid their beds. Thats where they can stay or in the gen bank till they can be placed. Is what I think will happen I take it you have less that 10yrs senority, and don't understand the local agreement and why being able to bump to either plant during slow times is there. Talk to some of the older people with senority, and ask them about the late 70's and early 80's and the layoffs. ITS ALL ABOUT SENORITY !!!!!!! If you don't respect SENORITY then go work @ Walmart. Also in early 2000's yes MTP was working 3 crews and people came over from WAP. But your down time wasn't any extended amount of time either say like 12 to 18 months it all was a week here week there. If you don't like the way the local contract reads then make the meetings find out whats going on and make your voice heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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