Versa-Tech Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 The final battle between congress and the big 3 for Bailout money starts at 2:55 EST (roughly, if you know how that works). Representatives from the Big 3 and the head of the UAW will be present for the battle. Tune into CSPAN if you wish to view the madness. I will be posting updates, for those of you that actually have lives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 (edited) The final battle between congress and the big 3 for Bailout money starts at 2:55 EST (roughly, if you know how that works). Representatives from the Big 3 and the head of the UAW will be present for the battle. Tune into CSPAN if you wish to view the madness. I will be posting updates, for those of you that actually have lives. wonder if the angst from Congress members is actually towards the UAW and less so the big Three?.......this morning CNN....cost per vehicle for medical and retirement GM = 1600....Toyota....200........ Edited November 18, 2008 by Deanh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 (edited) It's ironic that Ford probably doesn't qualify for bail out funding. I'd say give GM $50 billion in loans and let them collapse in a pool of red ink in 2 years time. Edited November 18, 2008 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versa-Tech Posted November 18, 2008 Author Share Posted November 18, 2008 It's underway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versa-Tech Posted November 18, 2008 Author Share Posted November 18, 2008 Is Sen. Tim Johnson retarded? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Is Sen. Tim Johnson retarded? remember ...these guys are demi-gods when it comes to knowledge, they know all...bow to them.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versa-Tech Posted November 18, 2008 Author Share Posted November 18, 2008 remember ...these guys are demi-gods when it comes to knowledge, they know all...bow to them.... Sen. Enzi just slapped the shit out of the UAW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versa-Tech Posted November 18, 2008 Author Share Posted November 18, 2008 Chuck Schumer just said that the automakers are necessary so that America can lead in ovation! Who votes for these guys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Sen. Enzi just slapped the shit out of the UAW tellin ya...congress has a UAW vendetta....BUT they ALSO have some accountability in this fracass...WAY too many entities have been pulling the Big Threes strings....Toyota and Honda execs must be laughing their ass's off by not having to live by the same set of rules and to be catered too.....pfffffffffft! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Is Sen. Tim Johnson retarded? No. He had a weird medical thing---a cluster of thinly walled blood vessels in the back of his brain that collapsed. After effects were basically the same as a stroke or an aneurysm, but was neither. He was just reelected here. Opponent made much of Johnson's position on the banking oversight committee (in regards to the bailout), but the speech impediment was completely off limits. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16199440/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Frankly, as noted over on the Mustang thread, watching those guys preen themselves raises my blood pressure to unsafe levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versa-Tech Posted November 18, 2008 Author Share Posted November 18, 2008 Frankly, as noted over on the Mustang thread, watching those guys preen themselves raises my blood pressure to unsafe levels. I like how half of them can't pronounce the words in their own speeches. I wonder if they even read them beforehand... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordowner Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Rep Johnson (R - Kentucky) I disagree with. Ford is able to be successful, I don't want to see government facilitated bankruptcy. Bankruptcy should be a last resort. I also agree with Tom Carper (D-Delaware) that its not clear how GM without aid could comeout of bankruptcy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Frankly, as noted over on the Mustang thread, watching those guys preen themselves raises my blood pressure to unsafe levels. they need to be moderated..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versa-Tech Posted November 18, 2008 Author Share Posted November 18, 2008 Rep Johnson (R - Kentucky) I disagree with. Ford is able to be successful, I don't want to see government facilitated bankruptcy. Bankruptcy should be a last resort. I also agree with Tom Carper (D-Delaware) that its not clear how GM without aid could comeout of bankruptcy. Tom Carper seems to be the only one there that has even been paying attention to the industry since the 20th century. Elizabeth Dole just slapped the shit out of the rest of the committee, while offering absolutely no opinion on the topic at hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Elizabeth Dole was just voted out of office. She doesn't have to even pretend to be constructive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Elizabeth Dole was just voted out of office. She doesn't have to even pretend to be constructive. has Jerry Springer raised his hand yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versa-Tech Posted November 18, 2008 Author Share Posted November 18, 2008 Sen. Brown just hit the nail on the head. :happy feet: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 watch some ignoramous trip over his lack of knowledge and blurt out something like..."OK, wee'll give you $ on the condition that you expell the UAW......".... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versa-Tech Posted November 18, 2008 Author Share Posted November 18, 2008 watch some ignoramous trip over his lack of knowledge and blurt out something like..."OK, wee'll give you $ on the condition that you expell the UAW......".... BTW, Bob Casey just made an excellent point regarding the collapse of Pennsylvania steel... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 wonder if this quip will rear its ignorant head and throw SOME of the accountability BACK at congress........."How come in comparison manufacturers such as Toyota and honda are NOT in the same predicament...answer THAT Mr Wagoneer......"....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versa-Tech Posted November 18, 2008 Author Share Posted November 18, 2008 :hysterical: It looks like Rob Bennett got smacked in the forehead with a 2x4 :hysterical: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironhorse Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Rep Johnson (R - Kentucky) I disagree with. Ford is able to be successful, I don't want to see government facilitated bankruptcy. Bankruptcy should be a last resort. I also agree with Tom Carper (D-Delaware) that its not clear how GM without aid could comeout of bankruptcy. Rep. Johnson is not fom Kentucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Should be Sen. Johnson from SD. And he's a Dem, so that's all off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extreme4x4 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 I can't watch it. Stupidity of massive proportions makes me want to throw a brick through my TV. I like my TV too much. However, I'm sure I can imagine exactly what is going on. A bunch of people who know absolutally nothing about the subject at hand, are trying to tell those who live it everyday............... how they are supposed to do their jobs............... and what they have been doing wrong. It would be akin to me making a speach to NASA, about how to build a better space shuttle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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