Harry Bennet Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 File under: Put yer $$$ where your mouth is. If the SOLIDARITY House wants to save GM, let Gettelfinger throw in the strikefund!! Is there going to be a strike? no so let the UAW save GM If the UAW thinks GM won't pay them back, then they should hold onto the strike money DARE YA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Any idea how much is in it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
udontkno Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 File under: Put yer $$$ where your mouth is.If the SOLIDARITY House wants to save GM, let Gettelfinger throw in the strikefund!! Is there going to be a strike? no so let the UAW save GM If the UAW thinks GM won't pay them back, then they should hold onto the strike money DARE YA #1 there is only about $1 billion in the strike fund. #2 If the UAW would have demanded GM and Ford to keep investing money in the U.S. instead of building new plants in China, India, Russia and the list goes on, Ford and GM would have $30-$50 billion each in the bank. Add up all of the money Ford spent on Jag., LR, Volvo, Mazda and the new plants in China, Latin America, Russia, Turkey and you will soon find that Ford spent over $30 billion and have little to show for it. Ford never made any profit on Jag. but spent over $12 billion buying and upgrading Jag. This is when they let the American plants that made Ford the profits Atlanta, Norfolk, Twin Cities, St. Louis starve for funds to continue to operate. Look at Twin Cities the Ranger is 15 years old without a model change because Ford wants to bring the new small truck from Asia. When is the union going to stand up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Bennet Posted November 20, 2008 Author Share Posted November 20, 2008 #1 there is only about $1 billion in the strike fund.#2 If the UAW would have demanded GM and Ford to keep investing money in the U.S. instead of building new plants in China, India, Russia and the list goes on, Ford and GM would have $30-$50 billion each in the bank. Add up all of the money Ford spent on Jag., LR, Volvo, Mazda and the new plants in China, Latin America, Russia, Turkey and you will soon find that Ford spent over $30 billion and have little to show for it. Ford never made any profit on Jag. but spent over $12 billion buying and upgrading Jag. This is when they let the American plants that made Ford the profits Atlanta, Norfolk, Twin Cities, St. Louis starve for funds to continue to operate. Look at Twin Cities the Ranger is 15 years old without a model change because Ford wants to bring the new small truck from Asia. When is the union going to stand up? Sooooo. . Saving GM is a waste of the UAW's money? the UAW has better use of the rank-and-files' money than saving GM? like what? organizing more casinos and graduate students? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uRfk9AcDfo9Wui Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Sooooo. . Saving GM is a waste of the UAW's money? the UAW has better use of the rank-and-files' money than saving GM? like what? organizing more casinos and graduate students? They can use it to fly them and all their family members to the next big union meeting in Hawaii. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechanic Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 It would be a positive PR gesture, even if not really helpful. shows that we are willing to help. our past give backs are not going to count, if we get help we will be making substantial concessions within the next few months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTV to SHV Transferee Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Remember, the UAW strike fund just doesnt cover the Auto Plants. Nurses, casino, colleges, insurance, state and public, FARM & Implement and lots of other employees. Therefore, he cant throw in the strike fund. Also, if the fund is depleted, any company that has a UAW contract would just lock out the employees, knowing the fund is empty. Also there is NLRB issues about the Union & company in collusion with each other! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unionguy963 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 File under: Put yer $$$ where your mouth is.If the SOLIDARITY House wants to save GM, let Gettelfinger throw in the strikefund!! Is there going to be a strike? no so let the UAW save GM If the UAW thinks GM won't pay them back, then they should hold onto the strike money DARE YA NO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badfinger Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Remember, the UAW strike fund just doesnt cover the Auto Plants. Nurses, casino, colleges, insurance, state and public, FARM & Implement and lots of other employees. Therefore, he cant throw in the strike fund. Also, if the fund is depleted, any company that has a UAW contract would just lock out the employees, knowing the fund is empty. Also there is NLRB issues about the Union & company in collusion with each other! I suppose the troll knows this already. Sorry you haven't recieved the frothing at the mouth responses you desired Mr. Bennet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganTruck_Mafia Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 File under: Put yer $$$ where your mouth is.If the SOLIDARITY House wants to save GM, let Gettelfinger throw in the strikefund!! Is there going to be a strike? no so let the UAW save GM If the UAW thinks GM won't pay them back, then they should hold onto the strike money DARE YA UAW's strike fund wouldn't save GM. It's like taking money from a kid's lemonade stand to pay off a mortgage on a $500,000 house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twincam Harley Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Why is this guy allowed to continue to post in an Employee only forum? Someone ban his ass! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lquidspine Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Any idea how much is in it? Around 700k last I heard, that wont help much for one let alone the Three that are asking for a combined 25 billion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hard Driver Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 (edited) Did you know that history has shown that Harry Bennit was a homosexual?! :happy feet: Edited November 20, 2008 by Hard Driver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
level Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 (edited) File under: Put yer $$$ where your mouth is.If the SOLIDARITY House wants to save GM, let Gettelfinger throw in the strikefund!! Is there going to be a strike? no so let the UAW save GM If the UAW thinks GM won't pay them back, then they should hold onto the strike money DARE YA nevermind.....it isn't even worth it. Edited November 20, 2008 by level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpc655 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 File under: Put yer $$$ where your mouth is.If the SOLIDARITY House wants to save GM, let Gettelfinger throw in the strikefund!! Is there going to be a strike? no so let the UAW save GM If the UAW thinks GM won't pay them back, then they should hold onto the strike money DARE YA I like your line of thought... GM also contributed 32 billion to VEBA. They could also take a loan from there. If the UAW is so concerned about saving jobs...make the loan to GM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Bennet Posted November 20, 2008 Author Share Posted November 20, 2008 Why is this guy allowed to continue to post in an Employee only forum? Someone ban his ass! Because I work at Ford. I just get my KoolAid from a different fountain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaford1 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Because I work at Ford. I just get my KoolAid from a different fountain To go one step further, let the UAW buy a portion of GM and give a share to all members. Then that will give all the workers incentive to make the best product around :shades: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigcountry Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 They can use it to fly them and all their family members to the next big union meeting in Hawaii. Now thats funny! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
udontkno Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 I have a better idea. How about GM, Ford and Chrysler putting at least 2 union members on each of their boards! I do not know of any union member that would apporve funding for these companies to take jobs from America to Mexico, at the very least workers would have a voice! Ron, step up and make some reasonable demands. After all your sitting next to these guys begging for the money too. I will say it again Ron is over his head. He might be a nice guy but like the majority of the international reps, he is over his head and the rank and file are suffering for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imawhosure Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 TWO THINGS--------> 1. I believe that the union should put up at least GMs part of the strike fund cash, even if it is 15 cents. That goes for Chrysler, and Ford, with each part going to the respective companys. REMEMBER THIS--------->While I personally did not vote for the man, Mr Obama has stated that he WILL infuse cash into the Big 3. The problem is---------->getting them to/past his inaguration day. Without these companys, it is Katie bar the door. Therefore, if you believe in Mr Obama, then get these companys through as best you can till then. I am under the assumption, that YOU believe the strike fund is for your benefit. Seems to me getting all these major manufacturers into a time frame that can get them the cash they need is IN YOUR BEST INTEREST, thus your benefit. 2. I have never been an activist like many on here, but it appears to me that very possibly we are to docile. You know, I wonder WHO on here could tell all of us how much money the Japanes government poured into their auto companys about the time they decided to come here?!?!?!?!?! I remember that time quite well; and I also remember our union complaining that we would accept FREE trade, as long as it was fair. This was not. I also remember the President (I think George the 1st) complaining about currency manipulation, which ended up even being George the II. How much money taking inflation into account, would that money these other countrys poured into their automakers, be WORTH TODAY in our current dollars? Our government was flacid!!! I know how hard most of you work, I was there. You do not deserve to be blamed for this fiasco! Oh sure, they blame the union, and you, lololol. But the reality is---------->The union has no more culpability than 30% tops! You see, the company screwed the pooch, and the government cared less as we got handed UNFAIR trade. Wonder who got rich off that? So, in closing, how much do YOU want your job? Maybe we should devise a MULTI million man march for our favorite reps in congress. All they know is votes, and we are a hell of a lot of them!!!!!!!! This goes across party lines positively, because they all really do know better, but are playing politics!!!!! Politics with your livelyhood. Let me get this straight----------->they can give Japan how many billion a year for defense? South Korea? And these countrys turn around and convert it to gifts for their automakers to take your jobs? You are telling all of us, that we pay taxes for you to send elsewhere to help finance our demise?????????? But when we ask for help, oh noooooooooooooooooooooo. But then we can help AIG?!?!?!?! They don't get it, cause we don't scare them. Maybe we should.........right in front of congress. And ANYONE who votes against saving American manufacturing from either party, we ALL VOTE TO REMOVE THEM ASAP. It is called clout people, and that is something we have not had in years. I think if we put our minds to it, we can show them the door. Remember, it is not just repubs, we have the dems balking to. And yet notice, where are most of these reps from?!?!?!?! The South. And who will go there and take our place to provide if we collapse? You know who, I know who, and if we don't do something besides bitch to each other, it is gonna happen. I don't have the time, so I am GOING TO MAKE THE TIME! We all deserve better than this treatment of INSIGNIFICANCE, and I am here to tell you that you CAN change their stance, if you (we) group enmass!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furious1Auto Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 File under: Put yer $$$ where your mouth is.If the SOLIDARITY House wants to save GM, let Gettelfinger throw in the strikefund!! Is there going to be a strike? no so let the UAW save GM If the UAW thinks GM won't pay them back, then they should hold onto the strike money DARE YA Your a retard, how about we use the strike fund to buy off politicians to end free trade *cough* cough* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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