papilgee4evaeva Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Question: Since the '10 Mustang uses the Bullitt mill, will they have a further enhanced one coming out with this MCE, or will they wait until the next complete refresh? (This question is half fact-seeking, half opinion-seeking. ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark B. Morrow Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 I don't know that another Bullitt Mustang is being planned. I would think a new Boss 302 or Mach 1 might be more likely. The original Bullitt was a limited edition and the '08 coincided with the 40th Anniversary of the movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenCaylor Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 The engineers at the reveal were very tight lipped as to drivetrains. The rumor is the Mustang will get the Duratec 35 for the V6 and a new DOHC 5.0 for the V8. Then, perhaps a EcoBoost 5.0 for the top of the line Mustang. This should happen for the 2011 Mustang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papilgee4evaeva Posted November 24, 2008 Author Share Posted November 24, 2008 (edited) Mark, you may be right. Seems popular enough though... and I'd consider getting one just because it comes in my favorite color. :happy feet: Steven, that would be sick. Especially since we haven't discussed, much less heard about, the 5.0EB (though I did see it in an article about the technology). Would love to see some power numbers for it one day... guess we have to wait, huh? Edited November 24, 2008 by papilgee4evaeva Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark B. Morrow Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Mark, you may be right. Seems popular enough though... and I'd consider getting one just because it comes in my favorite color. :happy feet: Steven, that would be sick. Especially since we haven't discussed, much less heard about, the 5.0EB (though I did see it in an article about the technology). Would love to see some power numbers for it one day... guess we have to wait, huh? I like the Highland Green too. It is on my '02 Explorer. A 5.0 EcoBoost would be a fitting 21st Century Boss 302. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versa-Tech Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 I like the Highland Green too. It is on my '02 Explorer. A 5.0 EcoBoost would be a fitting 21st Century Boss 302. I consider it a bit overkill. The original Boss 302 wasn't all that powerful in the first place... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark B. Morrow Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 I consider it a bit overkill. The original Boss 302 wasn't all that powerful in the first place... My recollection of the books I have read on the Boss is that the 290 hp rating was under-rated by close to 60. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versa-Tech Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 My recollection of the books I have read on the Boss is that the 290 hp rating was under-rated by close to 60. ...which still wasn't that much compared to the 427SO. A EB5.0 would outperform any engine Ford can currently produce. Sounds like bad marketing if you ask me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixt9coug Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 ...which still wasn't that much compared to the 427SO. A EB5.0 would outperform any engine Ford can currently produce. Sounds like bad marketing if you ask me... but Ford never put a 427 in the Mustang :D. 428s were rated at more than the Moss 302s, and were faster. The Boss cars were definately more of a road race package where the 428s were the muscle car and drag strip cars. or luxo high end when all decked out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versa-Tech Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 but Ford never put a 427 in the Mustang :D. 428s were rated at more than the Moss 302s, and were faster. The Boss cars were definately more of a road race package where the 428s were the muscle car and drag strip cars. or luxo high end when all decked out. It's not a question of who put it in there. The fact is that the most iconic mustangs of the time were powered by 427 side-oilers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igor Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 no bullitt for 2010 - but it will come back when 5.0l is online. and it will be SVT/FR tuned again. Igor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomaro Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 ...which still wasn't that much compared to the 427SO. A EB5.0 would outperform any engine Ford can currently produce. Sounds like bad marketing if you ask me... You are correct...but 350hp out of a 302 is nothing to sneeze at. In that era an engine producing more hp than cuin displacement was impressive. It is a shame that the side oiler never graced a Mustang...other than a dealer option 67 GT500. The 427 cougars weren't that impressive considered how detuned the 427s used i them were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versa-Tech Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 no bullitt for 2010 - but it will come back when 5.0l is online. and it will be SVT/FR tuned again. Igor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papilgee4evaeva Posted November 24, 2008 Author Share Posted November 24, 2008 no bullitt for 2010 - but it will come back when 5.0l is online. and it will be SVT/FR tuned again. Igor I knew you'd know, Igor... so my question to you is... is 5.0 online for '11 or '12, or do you know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igor Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 I knew you'd know, Igor... so my question to you is... is 5.0 online for '11 or '12, or do you know? well it is SUPPOSED to be online for 2011 ... that is as much as I know. Have not heard of any trouble on that program .. but maybe Versa tech knows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 (edited) I'd rather not see another Bullitt for another 30 years. Making a "special edition" isn't very special if the same one comes out every 3-4 years. There are plenty of other ways to go with special edition Mustangs. Explore those instead. Edited November 24, 2008 by NickF1011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papilgee4evaeva Posted November 24, 2008 Author Share Posted November 24, 2008 I'd rather not see another Bullitt for another 30 years. Making a "special edition" isn't very special if the same one comes out every 3-4 years. There are plenty of other ways to go with special edition Mustangs. Explore those instead. Yeah, but... <girly> I like the color! </girly> I'll look though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark B. Morrow Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Speculation for the Detroit Show http://www.autoblog.com/2008/11/25/ford-to...ory-in-detroit/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHV 16V Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 I'd rather not see another Bullitt for another 30 years. Making a "special edition" isn't very special if the same one comes out every 3-4 years. There are plenty of other ways to go with special edition Mustangs. Explore those instead. I agree. This last one was for the 40th anniversary, right? Then at least wait another 10 years for a 50th anniversary car. It's time for another famous Stang badge to make a return. I've been hearing Mach 1, but I gotta say I'll be severely disappointed if we have a 5.0-liter V8 around for awhile and we don't get a BOSS Mustang out of it! Speaking of which, since it was originally called a BOSS 302, has anyone found out what is the actual cubic-inch displacement of the new 5.0-liter? Are we going retro right down to the cubic-inch? (Even though we all know 302 is actually a 4.9-liter...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Project-Fairmont Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 My recollection of the books I have read on the Boss is that the 290 hp rating was under-rated by close to 60. The Boss 302 was a bit of a pooch - high 14's in the quarter. The '71 Boss 351 (4v Clevland) was a heavier car but way faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark B. Morrow Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 I agree. This last one was for the 40th anniversary, right? Then at least wait another 10 years for a 50th anniversary car. It's time for another famous Stang badge to make a return. I've been hearing Mach 1, but I gotta say I'll be severely disappointed if we have a 5.0-liter V8 around for awhile and we don't get a BOSS Mustang out of it! Speaking of which, since it was originally called a BOSS 302, has anyone found out what is the actual cubic-inch displacement of the new 5.0-liter? Are we going retro right down to the cubic-inch? (Even though we all know 302 is actually a 4.9-liter...) IIRC the last 5.0 wasn't really 5 litres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHV 16V Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 IIRC the last 5.0 wasn't really 5 litres. Yup. You are correct. That's what brought about my curiosity this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96 Pony Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 I'd rather not see another Bullitt for another 30 years. Making a "special edition" isn't very special if the same one comes out every 3-4 years. There are plenty of other ways to go with special edition Mustangs. Explore those instead. I agree. Time to bring back another limited edition classic Mustang 30 years later: :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurtisH Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 but Ford never put a 427 in the Mustang :D. I thought they put a detuned 427 (390 HP with hydraulic lifters) in the 68 model. Am I wrong about that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixt9coug Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 I thought they put a detuned 427 (390 HP with hydraulic lifters) in the 68 model. Am I wrong about that? That was the W Code Cougar GT-E. Mustangs never got 427s from Ford directly. Shelby made at least one that i know of and some racers made some im sure, but Ford didnt do any directly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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