Anthony Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Just got my C&D (heck it was 2 bucks for 2 years...couldn't pass it up for good bathroom reading material) Hybrid sedan shootout: 4th: Chevrolet Malibu Hybrid 3rd: Nissan Atima Hybrid 2nd: Toyota Camry Hybrid 1st: Ford Fusion Hybrid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomServo92 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Just got my C&D (heck it was 2 bucks for 2 years...couldn't pass it up for good bathroom reading material) Hybrid sedan shootout: 4th: Chevrolet Malibu Hybrid 3rd: Nissan Atima Hybrid 2nd: Toyota Camry Hybrid 1st: Ford Fusion Hybrid Bubububububububu...the Malibu cures cancer and the Camry emits butterflies and rainbows from its tailpipe. How can the Fusion ever compete with that???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 (edited) good bathroom reading material Well, since they use that shiny claycoat stock, you can't use C&D for what it's best suited: BTW: at $2/2 years, it's arguably cheaper than toilet paper. This means they're finally valuing their editorial content at market rates. Edited December 30, 2008 by RichardJensen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted December 30, 2008 Author Share Posted December 30, 2008 Well, since they use that shiny claycoat stock, you can't use C&D for what it's best suited: BTW: at $2/2 years, it's arguably cheaper than toilet paper. This means they're finally valuing their editorial content at market rates. Heck, my wife finds all the deals...I just smile and say "yes dear". Besides, its got purty pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex D. Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Bubububububububu...the Malibu cures cancer and the Camry emits butterflies and rainbows from its tailpipe. How can the Fusion ever compete with that???? Quote of the week! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenCaylor Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 The other good thing to note is that the scoring wasn't even close. Fusion won by a good margin. Fusion 204 Camry 189 Altima 184 Malibu 178 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomServo92 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 While I don't miss P71, it would be interesting to hear how he'd spin this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
focus05 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 P71: I once got 40 mpg on my panther running it down hill and then pushing it up to the top and rolling back down. See! Ford's had this for years but they fail to update it. Panther forever! D3 SUCKS! or something like that.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 While I don't miss P71, it would be interesting to hear how he'd spin this one. Two ways: Those that applaud the review would be accused of hypocrisy, because they've lambasted C&D in the past Those that continue to assert that C&D's methodology is fundamentally flawed, and that the results have all the credibility of the Miss America talent contest, would be accused of being impossible to please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomServo92 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 P71: I once got 40 mpg on my panther running it down hill and then pushing it up to the top and rolling back down. See! Ford's had this for years but they fail to update it. Panther forever! D3 SUCKS! or something like that.... Two ways: Those that applaud the review would be accused of hypocrisy, because they've lambasted C&D in the past Those that continue to assert that C&D's methodology is fundamentally flawed, and that the results have all the credibility of the Miss America talent contest, would be accused of being impossible to please. Looks like you both have it covered except you forgot a healthy sprinkling of these: :cheerleader: :cheerleader: :cheerleader: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Oh yeah, and "DIESEL IS BETTER" (conveniently ignoring worse EPA mileage from tinier Jetta diesel) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucky2 Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Oh yeah, and "DIESEL IS BETTER" (conveniently ignoring worse EPA mileage from tinier Jetta diesel) What's there to argue? Ford spent $$$$$$$$$$ and took years to deliver the Fusion Hybrid. Given the amount of money, time, and resources they spent doing that, they could have taken their awesome EU Clean Diesels, years ago, and deliverd them to the US market....for far less money, time, and resources. They would have been there to have made a killing when gas was 4.something a gallon. They would have had a public perception that, yes, Ford is capable of delivering high mpg offerings. They would have not had to go before Congress and get, rightly, @ss reamed. Instead they went this route. It's good that finally Ford has a great high mpg solution - and it is inarguably great...at least on paper so far. Now just drop the price about $4k (including the big $$$$ tax credit that, as you know, will eventually go away), and they'll have a real winner. When's this going to be in a $30k Flex???? Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wescoent Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Given the amount of money, time, and resources they spent doing that, they could have taken their awesome EU Clean Diesels, years ago, and deliverd them to the US market....for far less money, time, and resources. They would have been there to have made a killing when gas was 4.something a gallon. Chuck EU diesels are not clean. When gas was 4 something, and diesel was 5 something? Yeah, okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versa-Tech Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 What's there to argue? Ford spent $$$$$$$$$$ and took years to deliver the Fusion Hybrid. Given the amount of money, time, and resources they spent doing that, they could have taken their awesome EU Clean Diesels, years ago, and deliverd them to the US market....for far less money, time, and resources. They would have been there to have made a killing when gas was 4.something a gallon. They would have had a public perception that, yes, Ford is capable of delivering high mpg offerings. They would have not had to go before Congress and get, rightly, @ss reamed. Instead they went this route. It's good that finally Ford has a great high mpg solution - and it is inarguably great...at least on paper so far. Now just drop the price about $4k (including the big $$$$ tax credit that, as you know, will eventually go away), and they'll have a real winner. When's this going to be in a $30k Flex???? Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplesituations Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 What's there to argue? Ford spent $$$$$$$$$$ and took years to deliver the Fusion Hybrid. Given the amount of money, time, and resources they spent doing that, they could have taken their awesome EU Clean Diesels, years ago, and deliverd them to the US market....for far less money, time, and resources. They would have been there to have made a killing when gas was 4.something a gallon. They would have had a public perception that, yes, Ford is capable of delivering high mpg offerings. They would have not had to go before Congress and get, rightly, @ss reamed. Instead they went this route. It's good that finally Ford has a great high mpg solution - and it is inarguably great...at least on paper so far. Now just drop the price about $4k (including the big $$$$ tax credit that, as you know, will eventually go away), and they'll have a real winner. When's this going to be in a $30k Flex???? Chuck I think you need to do more research before you post something like this and why these diesels aren't here, you're gonna get abused over this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 they could have taken their awesome EU Clean Diesels, years ago, and deliverd them to the US market....for far less money, time, and resources. I'm assuming you have a citation to back that statement up. Therefore I will simply sit back and wait for you to dazzle me with something besides rhetoric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versa-Tech Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 I'm assuming you have a citation to back that statement up. Therefore I will simply sit back and wait for you to dazzle me with something besides rhetoric. What rhetoric? :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White99GT Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 All I can say is that it's a good thing there was no Accord Hybrid in that test. It would likely have won whether better than the Fusion Hyrbrid or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versa-Tech Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 All I can say is that it's a good thing there was no Accord Hybrid in that test. It would likely have won whether better than the Fusion Hyrbrid or not. Meh... Unless it comes with masturbation assist, I just don't see it. Honda is far behind Ford and Toyota when it comes to Hybrid tech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White99GT Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Meh... Unless it comes with masturbation assist, I just don't see it. Honda is far behind Ford and Toyota when it comes to Hybrid tech. You can pretty much guarantee when it concerns Honda or BMW, C&D is going to give the comparo to them no matter how how far they have to stretch logic and common sense to reach that conclusion. They would have figured out a way for the Accord to win. Gotta have it factor? Fun to drive? Value? All of the above? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Reynolds Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 You can pretty much guarantee when it concerns Honda or BMW, C&D is going to give the comparo to them no matter how how far they have to stretch logic and common sense to reach that conclusion. They would have figured out a way for the Accord to win. Gotta have it factor? Fun to drive? Value? All of the above? HAHA, so true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydro Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 It's funny. Critics, journalist, etc.. are actually sitting down and realizing Ford makes competitive vehicles and are spreading the word (for the most part) with great reviews. Now import lovers are claiming it's a sympathy bone being thrown to the Big 3. Classic, Ford proves everybody wrong and import fanboys still can't swallow the pill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Meh... Unless it comes with masturbation assist, I just don't see it. Honda is far behind Ford and Toyota when it comes to Hybrid tech. The "masturbation assist" only seems to work when Angus Mackenzie sits in the car :hysterical: Talk about auto-erotica..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efy Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Two ways: Those that applaud the review would be accused of hypocrisy, because they've lambasted C&D in the past Those that continue to assert that C&D's methodology is fundamentally flawed, and that the results have all the credibility of the Miss America talent contest, would be accused of being impossible to please. Naw, it's just that, for once, C&D got something right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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