Fatso Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 IF THEY REALY WANT US TO LEAVE, THEN THEY NEED TO ADD TO THE POT, SAY A NEW F150 *** THANK YOU! That is so obvious.The buyouts are only good for those with under 5-10 years /under 40 years old or at least 28 years seniority Everyone else is in a gray area.SWEETEN THE POT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makeastand Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I've worked on the line for 12 yrs. I don't consider 50,000 + pension+ healthcare crumbs. Like I said people have an over inflated idea of what they are worth. Like the company "owes" them some big payout just so they can retire and get paid. Look, this is America and we deserve an honest wage. As far as the buy outs, I don't plan on taking one but if they are being offered then any worker should have the right to take it. Although I do understand what you mean about the workers with self-entitlement issues, it is not to your discretion as to what Ford workers are worth. Maybe you are even shorting your own self worth. By the way, speaking of what a person is worth, look at what our great banking system is doing now. Not only has our country been out sourcing manufacturing jobs, now they are out sourcing all of our jobs. Click Here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikem12 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 THANK YOU! That is so obvious.The buyouts are only good for those with under 5-10 years /under 40 years old or at least 28 years seniority Everyone else is in a gray area.SWEETEN THE POT I have 28 years as of 1 March. but I won't be allowed to take the buy out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordworker Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 (edited) I think the union and Ford is committing FRAUD. We voted on the contract, we were NOT told the GEN could be disolved without a vote. I am sure there are alot of people like me who voted YES on the contract only because it stated we had a GEN. Thats the only reason I voted yes. We should have been given 2 or 3 different choices. 1 ending GEN as they did 2 taking pay cuts and keeping the GEN 3 changing GEN but keep it and cutting pay a little. No matter anyones opinion on this we can all agree that we did get jobbed "screwed" just like the refs did to the Cardinals last night. Edited February 2, 2009 by fordworker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2275 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Chrysler was just notified of a new round of buy-outs today,2-2-2009,so I would guess all the others will follow suit.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
condor Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Look, this is America and we deserve an honest wage. As far as the buy outs, I don't plan on taking one but if they are being offered then any worker should have the right to take it. Although I do understand what you mean about the workers with self-entitlement issues, it is not to your discretion as to what Ford workers are worth. Maybe you are even shorting your own self worth. By the way, speaking of what a person is worth, look at what our great banking system is doing now. Not only has our country been out sourcing manufacturing jobs, now they are out sourcing all of our jobs. Click Here 50k + pension+healthcare I'd be dancing out the door. Gotta go 18 more yrs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark270 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 50k + pension+healthcare I'd be dancing out the door. Gotta go 18 more yrs. i know, they would not have to ask me twice for that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkeep820 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 (edited) Ford spokeswoman Marcey Evans said the company has "no plans at this time to offer buyouts to hourly workers." Edited February 2, 2009 by rkeep820 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplesituations Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Ford spokeswoman Marcey Evans said the company has "no plans at this time to offer buyouts to hourly workers." and where is your link on this, show some proof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm2607 Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 and where is your link on this, show some proof http://money.aol.com/news/articles/qp/ap/_...t/rfid181374147 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkeep820 Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 (edited) and where is your link on this, show some proof The link is above. This sucks. "But Ford spokeswoman Marcey Evans said the company has "no plans at this time to offer buyouts to hourly workers." The Dearborn-based automaker offered 10 early retirement and buyout packages to all hourly workers during the first quarter of 2008 and offered packages at selected factories in the third quarter. About 7,100 employees left the company as a result, she said." Edited February 3, 2009 by rkeep820 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firefly Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 I have 28 years as of 1 March. but I won't be allowed to take the buy out. Just wondering why you can't take a Buy Out? Isn't the 28yr "Bridge" in the contract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wlbren Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Just wondering why you can't take a Buy Out? Isn't the 28yr "Bridge" in the contract? At KC we went to hr to sign up for the buyouts and were told that no electricians were going to be given buyouts this last time around. About 10 of us signed up anyway just so nobody could say we didn't try. I was told by the bargaining chair that it was company wide, no electricians being offered buyouts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbldbxorntnap Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 I have 28 years as of 1 March. but I won't be allowed to take the buy out. Are they no longer offering the PLRP for people with 28 years ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framed Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 At KC we went to hr to sign up for the buyouts and were told that no electricians were going to be given buyouts this last time around. About 10 of us signed up anyway just so nobody could say we didn't try. I was told by the bargaining chair that it was company wide, no electricians being offered buyouts. Wlbren, somebody in your union is giving you some bum info. Here at the Rouge complex, we had about 15 electricians take the buyouts the last time around. I thought buyouts were offered company-wide regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikem12 Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Just wondering why you can't take a Buy Out? Isn't the 28yr "Bridge" in the contract? They offered it to everyone accept Electricians and certain power house employees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makeastand Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 GM and Chrysler butouts Click Here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newone Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 the way i see it . we have already been slammed into pattern bargaining. they took away our gen even though were not taking money from the feds. mullally and all his vp's are still making their millions . gm and crysler now have built in guarantees with the loans they cannot take business out of the country. we on the other hand now have no guarantees. so with pattern bargaining already established. they have no choice but to offer us buyouts as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplesituations Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 The link is above. This sucks. "But Ford spokeswoman Marcey Evans said the company has "no plans at this time to offer buyouts to hourly workers." The Dearborn-based automaker offered 10 early retirement and buyout packages to all hourly workers during the first quarter of 2008 and offered packages at selected factories in the third quarter. About 7,100 employees left the company as a result, she said." she said they have "no plans at this time", it"s Feb, rumor said Mar. we will see and if they are offered, it will be the last one, no doubt. Nothing is concrete just like everything else is. They want to make room to get the $14 an hr people in and do what they need to get the $14 people in. I'm not saying that they are coming or not but seems like thinks keep changing daily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronco1994 Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Wlbren, somebody in your union is giving you some bum info. Here at the Rouge complex, we had about 15 electricians take the buyouts the last time around. I thought buyouts were offered company-wide regardless. every one including electricians were offered last time at AAI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereswaldo Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 the way i see it . we have already been slammed into pattern bargaining. they took away our gen even though were not taking money from the feds. mullally and all his vp's are still making their millions . gm and crysler now have built in guarantees with the loans they cannot take business out of the country. we on the other hand now have no guarantees. so with pattern bargaining already established. they have no choice but to offer us buyouts as well Some pattern bargaining. Chrysler offers $50k + a car, GM $20K?? + a car. See a pattern here ?? Gee take a buyout and Ford will give you an unsold 2007 Ford 500....Yippee. By the way, don't be surprised if these offers are only window dressing for the Govt $$$. Sure some will jump ship but unless you are ready to retire anyway, we'll see how many fools are out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wlbren Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 every one including electricians were offered last time at AAI Mikem and I not to mention at least 8 others went in to sign up and were told we could sign up, but would not be offered a buyout, no electricians at our plant were eligible, we could retire if we had seniority, but no buyout money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fomoconomo Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 and where is your link on this, show some proof The Detroit News, front page, Feb. 3rd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatso Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 (edited) I have 28 years as of 1 March. but I won't be allowed to take the buy out. WHY?At Wixom those with 28 years got to stay home or get another job for two years with 85% of their pay,including holidays and then at the end of that they get a full 30 year pension.Earn two years seniority and you don`t have to show up in a plant!Beat that deal,outside of politics! Edited February 5, 2009 by Fatso Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEagle Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 They offered it to everyone accept Electricians and certain power house employees. That makes complete sense. Ford desperatly needs Power House and Electricians company wide. At 400 We were told the company is very shortt on these people. Staion Steam Operators as well. So why would they allow their only talent to leave? Sorry bro they need ya! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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