69scode Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 I am thinking about buying a new Edge, Explorer or Flex and I and would like information on the 2.0L Ecoboost engine. Specifically when will it be available and what are the power levels ang MPG ratings. I will be traveling more in the future and highway MPG's are important. My TDI Jetta is too small for my needs and Ford won't touch diesels in America. (No flaming please). I am about 2-3 months away from buying, but I like to get ahead on things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 I can tell you this much, your not going to see the Ecoboost I4 in the states till LATE this year....if that. I posted some info on the Mondeo Ecoboost last week...but keep in mind that according to people here, that system is mostly third party, where as the one coming to NA (and I guess the EU after a while) was done in house..so power and MPG will be slightly different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atvman Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 Final numbers will probably be revealed when the new Explorer is revealed, hopefully some time in July. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 Final numbers will probably be revealed when the new Explorer is revealed, hopefully some time in July. Next Monday is the official Facebook release of the Explorer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 Next Monday is the official Facebook release of the Explorer. Is this engine going into the Mustang as well? The 2012 Mustang has a very early job one along with the 2012 Edge/MKX. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 Is this engine going into the Mustang as well? The 2012 Mustang has a very early job one along with the 2012 Edge/MKX. I wouldn't think so. No point really with the 3.7 doing such an admirable job already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT-Keith Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 With a 2L Ecoboost, the Mustang could return 35+ MPG and still be as quick as the '10 V6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 With a 2L Ecoboost, the Mustang could return 35+ MPG and still be as quick as the '10 V6. A 2.0L ecoboost won't be anywhere near 300 hp or 270 lb/ft. A 2.5L might get there though. But it's doubtful you'd be able to get 35+ mpg even with the 2.0L. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 With a 2L Ecoboost, the Mustang could return 35+ MPG and still be as quick as the '10 V6. I think you're being a little optimistic on what the 2L EB will be capable of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparcEE Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 I think you're being a little optimistic on what the 2L EB will be capable of. If the new 2011 Sonata can get 274HP and 269 lb-ft of torque and 34 MPG from a twin-scroll turbocharged 2.0-liter direct-injection four-cylinder...Dearborn hopefully will beat that, but assuming we are getting close to the laws of physics and durability...along with regular unleaded gas. SparcEE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 (edited) I think you're being a little optimistic on what the 2L EB will be capable of. It should be as fast as the Cologne (2010) V6. And, while 35mpg might be a bit of a stretch, keeping the engine off heavy boost should return low/mid 30s on the highway (say 33/34), given that it's about the same weight as the Fusion. Edited July 7, 2010 by RichardJensen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 Next Monday is the official Facebook release of the Explorer. I've looked around and cant find a date anywhere to confirm this. If the official reveal is next Monday, why do I have to sign a confidentiality agreement to go see it at Ford's Product Development Center next Friday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 Ford has said 20% better fuel economy than a V6, right? In a 'Stang, that is 37+. Now, can they meet that? I kinda doubt it, but I would be happy to be proven wrong! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probeGT Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 Ford has said 20% better fuel economy than a V6, right? In a 'Stang, that is 37+. Now, can they meet that? I kinda doubt it, but I would be happy to be proven wrong! They might have said 20% better than A V-6, not necessarily 20% better than THAT V-6! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 They might have said 20% better than A V-6, not necessarily 20% better than THAT V-6! Ha ha...very true! 20% better than a Cologne V6 = 3.7L V6! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 (edited) I've looked around and cant find a date anywhere to confirm this. If the official reveal is next Monday, why do I have to sign a confidentiality agreement to go see it at Ford's Product Development Center next Friday? I guess I was wrong, on the official page they state July sometime, so I'd assume its going to be after next Friday No official word on a V6 3.5EB in it either, just the EB 2.0L and 3.5L V6 Edited July 7, 2010 by silvrsvt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 It should be as fast as the Cologne (2010) V6. And, while 35mpg might be a bit of a stretch, keeping the engine off heavy boost should return low/mid 30s on the highway (say 33/34), given that it's about the same weight as the Fusion. The acceleration part was where I was being the most skeptical. I'm sure it could best then 3.7 by a few MPG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 I'm sure it could best then 3.7 by a few MPG. Yeah, but that wasn't the engine that was mentioned. It was the '10 Mustang V6 (4.0L) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 Yeah, but that wasn't the engine that was mentioned. It was the '10 Mustang V6 (4.0L) Ah, so it was. Why mention that turd ever again? As a Ford fan I do all in my power to pretend it never existed at this point. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atvman Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 I guess I was wrong, on the official page they state July sometime, so I'd assume its going to be after next Friday No official word on a V6 3.5EB in it either, just the EB 2.0L and 3.5L V6 I've found the 3.5L in my Edge to be perfectly adequate. The 2011 version has a slight power bump, though the Explorer is probably a few hundred pounds heavier than an Edge. The 3.5L EB would be nice, but I don't think I would need it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 I've found the 3.5L in my Edge to be perfectly adequate. The 2011 version has a slight power bump, though the Explorer is probably a few hundred pounds heavier than an Edge. The 3.5L EB would be nice, but I don't think I would need it. well I've driven the Edge and Escape and they both have good power, but I'd expect the 3.5l EB to be a V8 replacement in the Explorer. Its offered in the Flex, why not the Explorer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 According to the footnote at the bottom of this link, the Explorer looks to be headed toward a 19MPG FWD city rating... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpvbs Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 The FWD Toyota Highlander (I think this is the new Explorers target market) is rated 20/27 mpg with the 2.7l 4cyl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blksn8k2 Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 Ah, so it was. Why mention that turd ever again? As a Ford fan I do all in my power to pretend it never existed at this point. :lol: True enough. But when it was first introduced in the Explorer and later in the Ranger it was a superior engine to its main competition at the time, the 4.3L GM 90 deg V6. Ford just hung onto it too long and probably used it where they shouldn't have (Mustang). It was designed as a truck/SUV engine and as such it did a decent job until they could justify the cost of a more modern design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted July 7, 2010 Share Posted July 7, 2010 According to the footnote at the bottom of this link, the Explorer looks to be headed toward a 19MPG FWD city rating... I think Ford is sandbagging again on EPA ratings. Plus a 25% Improvement over 14 City (current Explorer RWD rating) is only 3.5 MPG... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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