tooltime Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Could someone verify the rumor that the trades signing up for the $100,000 incentive is above 400? If true they have exactly 22 days left for signup. Could the last 22 days push retirements above 500? 600? I was critical of the UAW in not negotiating a path to get us back but this $100,000, reskill, $50,000 return to production was the best path to get us back and very proactive. With these numbers possibly near 500 all of us should get back to our tools or atleast offered a reskill opportunity Thank you UAW 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ktp1989 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Could someone verify the rumor that the trades signing up for the $100,000 incentive is above 400? If true they have exactly 22 days left for signup. Could the last 22 days push retirements above 500? 600? I was critical of the UAW in not negotiating a path to get us back but this $100,000, reskill, $50,000 return to production was the best path to get us back and very proactive. With these numbers possibly near 500 all of us should get back to our tools or atleast offered a reskill opportunity Thank you UAW Not sure about the total numbers at KTP but the Pipefitter Trade looks to have 7-8 taking the buyout...but no job openings will be coming...as I assume will be the case in most plants. At some time Ford wants to begin to combine trades and that job is much easier thru attrition! The only trade I see openings for here is Electricians and rumor is the apprenticeship will begin to bring electricial apprentices only beginning next month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooltime Posted February 16, 2012 Author Share Posted February 16, 2012 Not sure about the total numbers at KTP but the Pipefitter Trade looks to have 7-8 taking the buyout...but no job openings will be coming...as I assume will be the case in most plants. At some time Ford wants to begin to combine trades and that job is much easier thru attrition! The only trade I see openings for here is Electricians and rumor is the apprenticeship will begin to bring electricial apprentices only beginning next month. You better get with your Chairman if they are not replacing 1 for 1 at KTP. The UAW has negotiated 1 for 1 replacement except ILO retirements and ACH retirements. So far this is true at the rouge where they have replaced active Pipefitters that left on a transfer and retirement. Also r&e has posted for machining speecialists retirements 1 for 1 also. Our Local 600 meeting is where we learned about the 1 for 1. Our skilled jobs are too valuable to let this 1 for 1 slip away. Also plenty of reskilling coming to many locations Stay vigilant, we have waited to long or this opportunity, if there are possibly 500+ $100,000 retirements and we should all be back to our tools. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skilled1 Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 (edited) You better get with your Chairman if they are not replacing 1 for 1 at KTP. The UAW has negotiated 1 for 1 replacement except ILO retirements and ACH retirements. So far this is true at the rouge where they have replaced active Pipefitters that left on a transfer and retirement. Also r&e has posted for machining speecialists retirements 1 for 1 also. Our Local 600 meeting is where we learned about the 1 for 1. Our skilled jobs are too valuable to let this 1 for 1 slip away. Also plenty of reskilling coming to many locations Stay vigilant, we have waited to long or this opportunity, if there are possibly 500+ $100,000 retirements and we should all be back to our tools. So far they have followed 1 to 1. Many retraining opportunities for Electricians and Stationary Steam here in the Rouge Edited February 19, 2012 by Skilled1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Employee Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 You better get with your Chairman if they are not replacing 1 for 1 at KTP. The UAW has negotiated 1 for 1 replacement except ILO retirements and ACH retirements. Have you seen this in the contract and if so can you copy and paste the wording here please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morepie Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 (edited) Contract? We have one! Or do you mean those agreements between the company and the union that allows the company to do whatever they wish! You would have a better chance at getting a copy of the incentive check given to Bob King to allow the company to do as they wish than getting a copy of something that says the company MUST do something ! Only thing the company is required to do is give salary raises and bonuses! If you voted yes for it you can't complain. Going back to some of your threads you posted 4 months ago it seems to me you were in favor and voted yes for the current contract. Sorry MAN but you can't complain that your ass hurts when you put your own thumb up you're butt. Edited February 20, 2012 by morepie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrymaker Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Could someone verify the rumor that the trades signing up for the $100,000 incentive is above 400? If true they have exactly 22 days left for signup. Could the last 22 days push retirements above 500? 600? I was critical of the UAW in not negotiating a path to get us back but this $100,000, reskill, $50,000 return to production was the best path to get us back and very proactive. With these numbers possibly near 500 all of us should get back to our tools or atleast offered a reskill opportunity Thank you UAW over 400? i find that hard to believe. i say you would be lucky to get 100. we will see after march 9th. hope you are right! also remember that 1 for 1, the company can say sales are down, loss of product etc..... the writing is on the wall the company does not want to pay $35hr. when they can go to the outside for 20 to 25$hr. for trades. phase trades out and bring outside contractors is there goal! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatso Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 (edited) over 400? i find that hard to believe. i say you would be lucky to get 100. we will see after march 9th. hope you are right! also remember that 1 for 1, the company can say sales are down, loss of product etc..... the writing is on the wall the company does not want to pay $35hr. when they can go to the outside for 20 to 25$hr. for trades. phase trades out and bring outside contractors is there goal! Yeah but then the company pays to 're-skill' workers {dont get me wrong-good for you} so its funny how they save money.After going through two apprenticeship programs if I was under 40 I would shop my skills around outside of Ford.Hello Monster.com.Maybe up in North Dakota or an offshore oild rig I could make $40 an hour!Cant believe what an incredible oppurtunity that is especially if you use it to your advantage.Training and education = $$$$$$ on this planet. Edited February 21, 2012 by Fatso 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louie Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Yeah but then the company pays to 're-skill' workers {dont get me wrong-good for you} so its funny how they save money.After going through two apprenticeship programs if I was under 40 I would shop my skills around outside of Ford.Hello Monster.com.Maybe up in North Dakota or an offshore oild rig I could make $40 an hour!Cant believe what an incredible oppurtunity that is especially if you use it to your advantage.Training and education = $$$$$$ on this planet. I know many Trades that are signing up for this huge opportunity (retraining). Also, that report of over 400 trades taking the 100000 was 2 weeks ago (old news). The window for trades closes March 6th and historically that 400 trades will grow well over 500 trades in the final 2 weeks of sign up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrymaker Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 I know many Trades that are signing up for this huge opportunity (retraining). Also, that report of over 400 trades taking the 100000 was 2 weeks ago (old news). The window for trades closes March 6th and historically that 400 trades will grow well over 500 trades in the final 2 weeks of sign up. so over 500 will take the buyout. what percentage of trades would that be ford wide? like i said, lucky to get 100. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skilled1 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 so over 500 will take the buyout. what percentage of trades would that be ford wide? like i said, lucky to get 100. Over 400 SKILLED TRADES signed up for the $100,000 incentive. That number was given 2 weeks ago. I have no idea what the production take rate is but SKILLED TRADES are over 400. Could be possible hitting the 500 number with several days left to sign up. Your estimate of 100 is off by 300 to 400.................... Thanks for playing, trap door exit, flush Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiredMotorCompany Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 400-500 taking buy-outs. 400-500 trades on ILO or on the line if memory serves me. Almost a 1 for 1 fit. Especially with re-skilling. Glad to see they are finally using the language that has been in the CBA since 1999. Got to give props to the bargaining team from then. Hope it works for each of those looking to get back to their tools ......or looking to take on the challenge of a new date of entry as SSE or Electrician. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrymaker Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Over 400 SKILLED TRADES signed up for the $100,000 incentive. That number was given 2 weeks ago. I have no idea what the production take rate is but SKILLED TRADES are over 400. Could be possible hitting the 500 number with several days left to sign up. Your estimate of 100 is off by 300 to 400.................... Thanks for playing, trap door exit, flush who gave those numbers, some shit house lawyer? my question is how many skilled trades are there ford wide and what percentage is 500 of that, then, you will re-think your numbers. 500..... i think not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uawfactoryrat Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 who gave those numbers, some shit house lawyer? my question is how many skilled trades are there ford wide and what percentage is 500 of that, then, you will re-think your numbers. 500..... i think not. As of right now 466......fact. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skilled1 Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 As of right now 466......fact. Thanks Uawfactoryrat. I heard 400 last week and figured it went up closing in on 500 Jerrymaker, 466 is exactly 100% of 466 taking the 100,000 incentive,,,,,,,,,,,, Hope this helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morepie Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 (edited) Remember people the UAW fought for 40.00 per hour wages to protect your middle class way of "lifestyle". If you don't think members should get that much, take a pay cut and work for Visteon. GTFO = Get the fuck out. Edited February 22, 2012 by morepie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrymaker Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 As of right now 466......fact. fact? from where?????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uawfactoryrat Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 fact? from where?????????? downtown...sorry no name dropping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvsked Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 downtown...sorry no name dropping. Darryl or Greg? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrymaker Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 downtown...sorry no name dropping. rumors.... they spread like wildfire. just wait till after march 6th, then call downtown and ask for a number and post it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uawfactoryrat Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Darryl or Greg? Like I said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooltime Posted February 23, 2012 Author Share Posted February 23, 2012 Update the $100,000 incentive retirements is at 440 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALEX4398 Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 I have already heard of guys getting the run around trying to get released from production. I wonder with the man power issues they have at the rouge if the company wont drag their feet placing us becuase they have no one to take our spots on the line. Could you imagine them trying to run with just 10 missing let alone 140 of us off line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooltime Posted February 24, 2012 Author Share Posted February 24, 2012 I have already heard of guys getting the run around trying to get released from production. I wonder with the man power issues they have at the rouge if the company wont drag their feet placing us becuase they have no one to take our spots on the line. Could you imagine them trying to run with just 10 missing let alone 140 of us off line. I heard the UAW negotiated LTSs at all locations to help with the transition of all retirements and the huge flow of trades back to our tools Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hard Driver Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 These numbers of 400-500 are all good news to me but I also have to question where they are coming from and if they are accurate. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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