Trimdingman Posted November 17, 2013 Author Share Posted November 17, 2013 So an 18 year old president is qualified to stand up against foreign leaders, corrupt congressmen, military industrial complex, lobbyists, international trade strategy, two party electorate debates, and errata? I dare say no. Or a 25 year old has the experience to read between the lines and maneuver the traps of powerful government agency heads and corporate power brokers leveraging to get THEIR interests mollified. Or a senator has the maturity to consider the best decisions for his constituents come before his political resume' and legacy. Age brings the wisdom of having been around long enough to have done, seen or know the consequences of making most mistakes. That is common sense. I am older than most, and can see what is going on. I have no beliefs, so my mind is free of viruses. I see lying and deceit everywhere. When someone tries to fight the corruption, the corrupt attack him. They magnify the faults and bury the merits, and when they get their person elected, they do the opposite. If Ford were a socialist, we would be looking at a saint through the prism put up by the brainwashing media. His flaws would be buried deeper than contemporary history of the time and place of the non-existent Jesus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langston Hughes Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 So an 18 year old president is qualified to stand up against foreign leaders, corrupt congressmen, military industrial complex, lobbyists, international trade strategy, two party electorate debates, and errata? I dare say no. Or a 25 year old has the experience to read between the lines and maneuver the traps of powerful government agency heads and corporate power brokers leveraging to get THEIR interests mollified. Or a senator has the maturity to consider the best decisions for his constituents come before his political resume' and legacy. Age brings the wisdom of having been around long enough to have done, seen or know the consequences of making most mistakes. Look, that's why I believe we are too hard on our youth. We expect them to be adults in our legal system but as you pointed out that soceity doesn't believe them to be as wise as older adults. The point is that our drug laws are to hard on the people we expect to make the mistakes, or perhaps it's better to say the people we don't believe are wise enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiredMotorCompany Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Look, that's why I believe we are too hard on our youth. We expect them to be adults in our legal system but as you pointed out that soceity doesn't believe them to be as wise as older adults. The point is that our drug laws are to hard on the people we expect to make the mistakes, or perhaps it's better to say the people we don't believe are wise enough. There is a difference in being responsible for ones own actions (an 18 year old) and being responsible for a city, state or country. Raising a child to be a responsible adult is the responsibility of the parent.....until 18. There has to be a cut-off. Lord knows that the later teens are the age where parents are faced with trying to instill maturity to their child at a point where they think they know how the world works. That's why those bigger loads are not put on their shoulders. But, as tough as it may be to hold them to that standard, we are not doing them a favor by coddling them and their "mistakes". If they want the perks of majority, then they have the risks of their mistakes. More reason child bearing shouldn't be begun before 18. Imagine, as we have seen, that FEW cases show young parents work well for the parents OR THE CHILD. Exceptions aside. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langston Hughes Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 There is a difference in being responsible for ones own actions (an 18 year old) and being responsible for a city, state or country. Raising a child to be a responsible adult is the responsibility of the parent.....until 18. There has to be a cut-off. Lord knows that the later teens are the age where parents are faced with trying to instill maturity to their child at a point where they think they know how the world works. That's why those bigger loads are not put on their shoulders. But, as tough as it may be to hold them to that standard, we are not doing them a favor by coddling them and their "mistakes". If they want the perks of majority, then they have the risks of their mistakes. More reason child bearing shouldn't be begun before 18. Imagine, as we have seen, that FEW cases show young parents work well for the parents OR THE CHILD. Exceptions aside. We agree on 16 and pregnant being bad then right? I don't want 18 year olds running the country but they should be free to try if they so choose. The voters should be forced to deny them not the constitution. That's just my rough feeling on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiredMotorCompany Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 We agree on 16 and pregnant being bad then right? You think? I don't want 18 year olds running the country but they should be free to try if they so choose. The voters should be forced to deny them not the constitution. That's just my rough feeling on it. If there's an 18 year old worthy of running the country, then when they reach the minimum age, the country will be well aware of who they are and their past behavior to justify trust in them. I'm done with this sidebar. Back to Ford? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langston Hughes Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 You think? If there's an 18 year old worthy of running the country, then when they reach the minimum age, the country will be well aware of who they are and their past behavior to justify trust in them. I'm done with this sidebar. Back to Ford? Ford's boring, we should discuss how your libertarian leanings end at arbitrary age restrictions. Less partisan and much more interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiredMotorCompany Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Ford's boring, we should discuss how your libertarian leanings end at arbitrary age restrictions. Less partisan and much more interesting. Start another thread. I'm attempting to allow this thread to gracefully return to the topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trimdingman Posted November 18, 2013 Author Share Posted November 18, 2013 Ford's boring, we should discuss how your libertarian leanings end at arbitrary age restrictions. Less partisan and much more interesting. Ford is not boring. The left has been after him long before he became mayor, and long before the public knew about his partying. If there is another election and Ford loses, do you know who will probably become mayor? Olivia Chow, the widow of the late Jack Layton. She is NDP socialist to the bone. She and her husband were both city councillors at the same time; both collecting government paychecks, and unbelievably living in subsidized housing meant for low-income earners. That pair had enough entitlement mentality to become senators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstock Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 (edited) http://jalopnik.com/this-bizarre-volvo-truck-parody-nails-the-surreality-of-1466581384 Edited November 18, 2013 by Edstock 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark B. Morrow Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 The real Rob Ford would bust those mirrors clean off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cal50 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Volvo has some strong mirrors.... (Forfd looks like Mike Holmes from Holmes on Holmes, just add a couple hundred pounds) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark B. Morrow Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 (edited) If Rob Ford went by Bob, he and his brother Doug could be the new McKenzie Brothers. Take off, Eh. My brother and I used to say that drownin' in beer was like heaven, eh? Now he's not here, and I've got two soakers... this isn't heaven. This sucks! Edited November 19, 2013 by Mark B. Morrow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark B. Morrow Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Doug McKenzie Ford: See, if you'd stick to your 12-point maintinence program, eh, then we wouldn't have to jump-start you like this. Oh, no, you had to do it your way... you think you know everything, eh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langston Hughes Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 I like the new video where he busts through the line and delivers a hit to the running ba.....er...older lady. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark B. Morrow Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 I like the new video where he busts through the line and delivers a hit to the running ba.....er...older lady. Maybe he was just...hungry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langston Hughes Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 (edited) Maybe he was just...hungry. Or on crack. Edited November 19, 2013 by Langston Hughes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langston Hughes Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 http://youtu.be/QB1dJeMtb08 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark B. Morrow Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 His TV show was cancelled after 1 episode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langston Hughes Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 His TV show was cancelled after 1 episode. i like this headline Rob Ford's TV Show Canceled After One Episode, Because Duh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trimdingman Posted November 20, 2013 Author Share Posted November 20, 2013 (edited) No matter how much the left tries to portray Canadians as panty-waisted Liberals, our true colors will eventually come out. We have to be what we are. We are hard living fun loving red necks. We had a hockey player named Brian Spencer from B.C. He was my favorite Leaf. His father went to the TV station with a gun because they weren't showing the Leafs game. He ended up getting shot by police. Later, Spencer got killed in Florida after some colorful shenanigans. A reporter doing a story on Spencer went to B.C. to interview Spencer's brother. He went to the local watering hole looking for the brother. It seems the brother was barred for biting off the bouncer's thumb. This is Canada, baby. Rob Ford fits right in. Edited November 21, 2013 by Trimdingman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiredMotorCompany Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Well, we all knew it would come to this...... Toronto Mayor to Seek Help for Substance Abuse TORONTO (AP) — The lawyer for Toronto Mayor Rob Ford says Ford will take a leave of absence to seek help for substance abuse. Dennis Morris, Ford’s lawyer, said Wednesday night that Ford acknowledges he has a substance abuse problem and he wants to do something about it. Ford, who is seeking re-election in October, acknowledged last year, after months of denials, that he smoked crack in a “drunken stupor” after police said they obtained a video that appears to show him smoking crack. The video has never been released to the public. News reports of the crack video’s existence first surfaced last May, igniting a media firestorm around Ford. He careened from one scandal to another, becoming a national embarrassment for many Canadians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langston Hughes Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Well, we all knew it would come to this...... Toronto Mayor to Seek Help for Substance Abuse About damn time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goinbroke2 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 I sent one of my guys who is an alcoholic and has ptsd from Afghanistan to ValCartier for 28 days on a spin dry course. He gets back on the 15th of May..the RCEME birthday... bad timing... Oh, RCEME is the Royal Canadian Electrical Mechanical Engineers (the mechanic's, welders, weapons tech's and fire control systems guys) Most of the time it gets worse and worse until finally somebody says enough and forces the issue, other times the person makes the decision themselves, regardless it's a step forward. Due to my time oversea's we had a lot in common and I'd get phone calls at o dark thirty with him loaded and opologising for calling, etc,etc. Once it turned to suicide I had to run it up the chain and then forced the issue to get him help. Now he'll be on pills so he can't drink so it should be good. With Rob Ford, yeah he likes to party and is probably the guy who won't leave at the end of the night, maybe he's guy who gets snotty when drunk, who knows. I know guys like that and treat them accordingly. Next day though they're one of the hardest working guys, work hard/play hard. His biggest issue is that he's a politician who doesn't know how to protect himself. He has no idea that if "Rob" is an asshole one night, somebody might punch him in the yap, but if "the mayor" is an asshole, EVERYBODY knows about it. That's a case of a regular joe blow being in the limelight and not knowing how to politically correctly articulate his words. Add the left wing media bias and yeah, you get this mess. I can't imagine my kids finding out that I did/(do?) crack. How the heck do you look your kids in the face at breakfast knowing that they know you smoke crack?? Anyway, if he get's sorted out and then re-elected it should be really good, I mean look what he did while stoned/drunk? Imagine what he'll do sober??? Gee, maybe that should be his election campaign line?? LOL!!! Vote for me, you saw how much I cleaned up Toronto while stoned, imagine what I can do clean?? LOL!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trimdingman Posted May 2, 2014 Author Share Posted May 2, 2014 Maybe Rob Ford should not be mayor of Toronto, but the alternative would be a disaster. That is why he continues to have a lot of support. Toronto city council makes San Francisco look like Dodge City. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-150 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Maybe Rob Ford should not be mayor of Toronto, but the alternative would be a disaster. That is why he continues to have a lot of support. Toronto city council makes San Francisco look like Dodge City. People keep making out like the mayor of Toronto has power equivalent to a premier or prime minister. Not true. Council has the power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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