tooltime Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Are our UAW negotiated wages and benefits so rich that the D3 must invest in Mexico?? http://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/chrysler/2015/09/20/uaw-shifting-work-mexico-pays-higher-wages-us/72400262/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Workers in Mexico, according to some articles, work longer than American workers, earn a fifth of the compensation of American workers, their plants don't have the EPA rules like the U.S. plants, and the tax rates are better. Is Mexico a threat to our jobs? Damn straight they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cal50 Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Anytime the company can move or place work for reduced cost or simple work rules they usually take the path of least resistance and cost. Lima adopted work rules ( agreements ) in the past putting the wiener to Cleveland Engine so they "whip sawed" some work from a sister plant. So much for "solidarity", lol. Domestic plants try to secure work for themselves with Ford sourcing it for whats best for them. I only wish Ford would have put the money into building any new plants anywhere inside the USA Vs Mexico or others places. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drphil Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Anytime the company can move or place work for reduced cost or simple work rules they usually take the path of least resistance and cost. Lima adopted work rules ( agreements ) in the past putting the wiener to Cleveland Engine so they "whip sawed" some work from a sister plant. So much for "solidarity", lol. Wow there is actually someone still working here that actually knows the facts of how Lima got the Vulcan engine program. Kinda funny because none of the idiots in the local union now have any idea of the history of this plant or of the UAW. They just make up their own stories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptObvious Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Anytime the company can move or place work for reduced cost or simple work rules they usually take the path of least resistance and cost. Lima adopted work rules ( agreements ) in the past putting the wiener to Cleveland Engine so they "whip sawed" some work from a sister plant. So much for "solidarity", lol. Domestic plants try to secure work for themselves with Ford sourcing it for whats best for them. I only wish Ford would have put the money into building any new plants anywhere inside the USA Vs Mexico or others places. like that dont happen all over the company or across big 3 ? i know it happens everywhere, so much for that logic eh ? you know what send all the shit to mexico, they can fucking have it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlecountry Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Mexico is no threat , it's Real Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drphil Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 The Mexicans do the work that Americans don't want to do Bush said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptObvious Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Send it all to mexico Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 The only question at this point would be is when will the UAW begin organizing down in Mexico? Corporate greed will use those workers until every last dollar (and peso) is squeezed from their hide and then the corporate greed will move like locusts to their next "low cost area" to devour.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downtime1 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 The only question at this point would be is when will the UAW begin organizing down in Mexico? Corporate greed will use those workers until every last dollar (and peso) is squeezed from their hide and then the corporate greed will move like locusts to their next "low cost area" to devour.... You better believe that's coming, that's why their not fighting to keep those jobs in the US. All they care about is getting those union dues, no matter where it comes from! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldwizard Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 I am only surprised that the shift of additional manufacturing from the D3 to Mexico has taken this long. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 You better believe that's coming, that's why their not fighting to keep those jobs in the US. All they care about is getting those union dues, no matter where it comes from! What an ignorant reply.....by raising the standard of living, the corporations will be less inclined to leave here for cheaper labor across the boarder. It isn't about the dues...its about the standard of living. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downtime1 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 What an ignorant reply.....by raising the standard of living, the corporations will be less inclined to leave here for cheaper labor across the boarder. It isn't about the dues...its about the standard of living. Raising the standard of living, whose doing that?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drphil Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 It is about the dues!! IUAW is big business it's all about the Benjamins (MONEY). Guess you never been to a constitutional convention or any of the big Vegas shindigs. M-O-N-E-Y make sure you go to one before you retire. Live the lifestyle of the rich and famous for a week. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downtime1 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 It is about the dues!! IUAW is big business it's all about the Benjamins (MONEY). Guess you never been to a constitutional convention or any of the big Vegas shindigs. M-O-N-E-Y make sure you go to one before you retire. Live the lifestyle of the rich and famous for a week. That's all its about is the dues.. I'm waiting to hear back from twin tornados to find out who he thinks is raising the standard of living... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 That's all its about is the dues.. I'm waiting to hear back from twin tornados to find out who he thinks is raising the standard of living... Keep waiting....you already know the answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downtime1 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) Keep waiting....you already know the answer No actually I don't that's why I'm asking you to tell me, didn't think you would answer it.. Edited September 21, 2015 by Downtime1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatso Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Thank NAFTA for all jobs lost to Mexico.See they can build cars and ship em back to the USA with no tariffs.Now its a quite different story when USA goods are exported to Mexico.Mexicans got pride which is more than I can say for dumbed-down Americans and it only gets worse!TPP is like NAFTA that covers Asia.How cheap can Ford build cars in Vietnam? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downtime1 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I can't believe they(the IUAW) would even bring up making the cheap selling cars in Mexico in the middle of the contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlecountry Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 (edited) What an ignorant reply.....by raising the standard of living, the corporations will be less inclined to leave here for cheaper labor across the boarder. It isn't about the dues...its about the standard of living. When it comes to the UAW it's all about the dues, if it wasn't about the dues they would have let us vote on a dues increase instead of just passing it on there own Edited September 22, 2015 by littlecountry 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigsaw!! Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 We will soon find out what the membership at chrysler thinks. I am thinking strike won't get them much of anything. Look at Ford they are making power trains and assembling vehicles in Mexico and all over the world. Just wondering how long would it take to switch a assembly plant over from cars to trucks?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caustic Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 When it comes to the UAW it's all about the dues, if it wasn't about the dues they would have let us vote on a dues increase instead of just passing it on there own Before the dues increase last year when was the last dues increase? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Before the dues increase last year when was the last dues increase? It's not a matter of the time between the last 2 increases, it's that the latest increase back in November or whenever the hell it was got rammed down our throats without any say from the membership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downtime1 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 It's not a matter of the time between the last 2 increases, it's that the latest increase back in November or whenever the hell it was got rammed down our throats without any say from the membership. A dues increase to put more pressure on the companies to let them know we want a good contract this time or we will strike. All tough talk.., Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 A dues increase to put more pressure on the companies to let them know we want a good contract this time or we will strike. All tough talk.., some good that "pressure" did for FCA workers.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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