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On 4/1/2021 at 2:41 PM, akirby said:


The only number to look at is total deaths from all causes.  Every year from 2014 through 2019 total deaths increased by 20k-80k a year due to population increases.  In 2020 deaths increased by over 400K.  Without some other cause that has yet to be identified, you must conclude that Covid is responsible for those additional deaths regardless of classifications or other factors.  Without Covid the increase should have been 80k at most based on past history.  Those are just facts and I highly doubt the CDC is faking total deaths.

 

 

 

 

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You will never convince me that 400,00 perfectly healthy people died from CCP Wuflu

If there are other conditions as reported by CDC in 94% of deaths, then other conditions contributed to the deaths that is a simple 'fact' as you would say.

OR, it could be stated that if 50-100 million Americans were NOT immune suppressed (medications) or immune deficient (nutrition and exercise) there would have been far less death - plausibly the 80K number you mentioned.

This is a SERIOUS wake up call to a vastly un-healthy population. This was a ticking bomb.

 

Average age of death among CCP WuFlu  - approx 78-81 years of age. 

Current projected average lifespan in the USA:  78.9  years of age.
 

 

 

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Here is an important question - please help me understand:

 

Anyone in pharma research will tell you that trials go 5+ years for a good reason.  58% of drugs fail Phase III which is usually 3-5 years (long term issues) in the process.

 

The mRNA Therapy shot (aka vaccine) is engineered to change your body to 'manufacture' the dreaded 'spike protein', thereby provoking an 'immune' response.  There is no noted mechanism to turn this off once the CCP WuFlu is no longer a pandemic threat.

 

AND that leads to the big question:   If the mRNA therapy (aka vaccine) is non-FDA approved (only 'emergency' authorized') and the manufacturers have been granted full release of liability, and your immune system turns hyper active after 3-5years because your body is constantly making the spike protein leading to possibly serious auto-immune problems, CAN YOUR INSURANCE deny payment for medical treatment due to a non-FDA approved procedure?

 

Would anyone ever consume a product, any product, where the manufacturer had ZERO liability for something that could go wrong?

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9 minutes ago, Kev-Mo said:

You will never convince me that 400,00 perfectly healthy people died from CCP Wuflu

If there are other conditions as reported by CDC in 94% of deaths, then other conditions contributed to the deaths that is a simple 'fact' as you would say.

 

Nobody ever said the deaths were from "perfectly healthy" people.   The conclusion though is that without Covid those other 94% with other conditions would not have died last year.  At least not any more than a normal year.

 

What this means though is that the total deaths over the next few years should drop or at least not increase at the normal pace since Covid has essentially "pulled ahead" a lot of deaths that would have occurred otherwise over the next decade or so.

 

Doesn't change the fact that half a million people died prematurely and our medical providers were overwhelmed.

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20 minutes ago, akirby said:

 

What this means though is that the total deaths over the next few years should drop or at least not increase at the normal pace since Covid has essentially "pulled ahead" a lot of deaths that would have occurred otherwise over the next decade or so.

 

 

 

Glad you mentioned this - as I was thinking future stats should show this to be true.

 

Doesn't change the fact that there is ticking time bomb heath crisis in our population.  If it wasn't Covid it would be the next thing.   Fuzzy mentioned on the previous page - why is 'poor heath' this not the primary narrative?  It is all about politicizing and 'blaming' Trump. 

 

 

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51 minutes ago, akirby said:

Nobody ever said the deaths were from "perfectly healthy" people.   The conclusion though is that without Covid those other 94% with other conditions would not have died last year.  At least not any more than a normal year.

 

What this means though is that the total deaths over the next few years should drop or at least not increase at the normal pace since Covid has essentially "pulled ahead" a lot of deaths that would have occurred otherwise over the next decade or so.

 

Doesn't change the fact that half a million people died prematurely and our medical providers were overwhelmed.

Unfortunately correct. Since we have prioritized the elderly (myself included) for the vaccine, each life saved represents say 5-20 years per person. For a young person, for each life saved could represent 40-50 years per person. Therefore which is the greater good? Not so obvious.

Secondly how many survivors of COVID will face consequences of compromised lungs, heart, etc? 

 

 

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44 minutes ago, Kev-Mo said:

If it wasn't Covid it would be the next thing.   Fuzzy mentioned on the previous page - why is 'poor heath' this not the primary narrative?  It is all about politicizing and 'blaming' Trump. 


Because normal “poor health” doesn’t put people on ventilators for 2-4 weeks and it doesn’t overwhelm hospitals.

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21 minutes ago, paintguy said:

Unfortunately correct. Since we have prioritized the elderly (myself included) for the vaccine, each life saved represents say 5-20 years per person. For a young person, for each life saved could represent 40-50 years per person. Therefore which is the greater good? Not so obvious.

Secondly how many survivors of COVID will face consequences of compromised lungs, heart, etc? 


Vaccinating those of us 55+ makes sense because that’s where the majority of deaths and hospitalizations occur.

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15 hours ago, Kev-Mo said:

AND that leads to the big question:   If the mRNA therapy (aka vaccine) is non-FDA approved (only 'emergency' authorized') and the manufacturers have been granted full release of liability, and your immune system turns hyper active after 3-5years because your body is constantly making the spike protein leading to possibly serious auto-immune problems, CAN YOUR INSURANCE deny payment for medical treatment due to a non-FDA approved procedure?


I highly doubt it and that's the biggest reason why I refuse to take it. 
 

Funny how "my body my choice" suddenly doesn't apply, isn't it? 

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1 hour ago, fuzzymoomoo said:


I highly doubt it and that's the biggest reason why I refuse to take it. 
 

Funny how "my body my choice" suddenly doesn't apply, isn't it? 

 

It never applied - you're not pregnant.

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18 hours ago, Kev-Mo said:

AND that leads to the big question:   If the mRNA therapy (aka vaccine) is non-FDA approved (only 'emergency' authorized') and the manufacturers have been granted full release of liability, and your immune system turns hyper active after 3-5years because your body is constantly making the spike protein leading to possibly serious auto-immune problems, CAN YOUR INSURANCE deny payment for medical treatment due to a non-FDA approved procedure?

Highly doubt it as by the time such a thing would happen there will be National Health Insurance with single payer. Now Government would just look silly denying payment for something they recommended. And we know the government would never look silly.

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With the total number of causalities, points of our discussion, I tend to think we are pretty much all on the same page. The categories that are used to break down the total number of deaths is in question, I would think there is agreement on. Government agencies will use an age old method of deception to get to the results that best fit the objectives of the agency reporting the numbers.  

 

The military has taught, applied and refined these method`s of deception to better the benefits of the objectives for centuries. Recent methods used have come to light and are in everyday life applications, the general term is referred in the military application as camouflage. Jungle, desert, artic and etc.. A good example of the refining of the method`s of deception and then the method being exposed is the "ghillie suit". Four plus decades out from Ft Sill since the first time I saw such a deception being used, I`m still impressed at the simplicity of the engineering of the suit that give such a high level of benefit from the deception. 

 

To many, average members of the public, that description,  is what comes to mind if the word camouflage is stated. Then there are military, accountants and business members of the public that know of differing levels camouflage or deception. Government agencies have used these levels of deception for all the years this country has been around. From every conflict to every crisis and has refined the camouflage to a level that is efficient and much more effective. As far back as the war between the states it was and continues to be used to this day. The camouflage that was and is used is as simple a method and very simplistic in its form as it always has been since the first members of the unofficial liars brigade were given orders to tell the first lie to benefit the objective. Camouflage = Deception, give best results. This camouflage moved from word of mouth to print to radio to the internet getting more and more efficient.

 

The rona total data/numbers we see are a great example of the very gray area truth has slipped into. The variables within each of the categories is all a part of the deception/camo. Did we exceed the average deaths in a 12 month period, yes without question or debate. Was there something specific responsible for the increase in casualties, the camouflage is putting out the total deaths in line with the rona, objective. Is there fact or truth in the data, or is the ghillie suit doing it`s indented operation? Remember the same individuals reporting these totals are most likely in some form and at some level of application the same individuals that have instructed vast amounts of others to participate in the benefits of camouflage.  

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6 minutes ago, Decker said:

Ok... not kinda or maybe or close.... this hit the stupid shit spot on. 

 

https://townhall.com/columnists/dennisprager/2021/04/06/maskwearing-represents-fear-and-blind-obedience-not-science-n2587447

 

 

 

You're correct. That opinion piece contains absolutely no scientific fact and should be ignored for the ignorance that it is.

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2 hours ago, valve said:

 

You're correct. That opinion piece contains absolutely no scientific fact and should be ignored for the ignorance that it is.

 

Valve ever confront a dyeing parent through a window for months, then a doorway 20 feet away, at the end of their journey? For no other reason than a man told you... you can`t get closer?  

 

Thankfully  both county officers that responded to the facilities call stood there, asked if there was anything I needed and proceed to close the door behind me. Then when time had given way to the passage they escorted be to the parking lot in zip ties. When in the squad I was instructed too be picked up at the county seat by a friend or family. To give the person picking me up my keys to remove my vehicle from the facility. That Deputy wasn`t born with it but, by your response I wonder if the Deputy had more strength than you`ll ever have.....  my disorderly conduct has since been removed from the docket.

 

For your data gathering valve, neither parent tested positive but both had to adhere to some man`s rules.       I...did not. 
 

To clarify... I was referring  to the “masks rules” as stupid shit. 

 

Good luck valve, walking your journey of fear and blind faith in man. 

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1 hour ago, Decker said:

 

Valve ever confront a dyeing parent through a window for months, then a doorway 20 feet away, at the end of their journey? For no other reason than a man told you... you can`t get closer?  

 

Thankfully  both county officers that responded to the facilities call stood there, asked if there was anything I needed and proceed to close the door behind me. Then when time had given way to the passage they escorted be to the parking lot in zip ties. When in the squad I was instructed too be picked up at the county seat by a friend or family. To give the person picking me up my keys to remove my vehicle from the facility. That Deputy wasn`t born with it but, by your response I wonder if the Deputy had more strength than you`ll ever have.....  my disorderly conduct has since been removed from the docket.

 

For your data gathering valve, neither parent tested positive but both had to adhere to some man`s rules.       I...did not. 
 

To clarify... I was referring  to the “masks” as stupid shit. 

 

Good luck valve, walking your journey of fear and blind faith in man. 

 

No fear. Just respect for everyone else, enough to research and know that masks do help and do work. Keep living in your denial of the scientific facts. This isn't oppression, it's respect for your fellow man. Get over yourself.

 

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Knock off the personal attacks or this topic will be locked.

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17 minutes ago, akirby said:

Knock off the personal attacks or this topic will be locked.

 

Closing of this thread is long overdue.

 

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Copy, the restraining of personal attacks.

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11 minutes ago, valve said:

Closing of this thread is long overdue.

 

We've always given posts in the employee section a long leash unless there are complaints from the employees or personal attacks.

 

We also don't normally allow non employees to post on topics in the employee section but Decker has allowed it on some of his topics like this one.  Up to him if he wants to change that.

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Thanks akirby, I have never had problems with anyone voicing their opinion in agreement or against my opinions or posts. As you stated I welcome all, employee`s or not. I have on many occasion expressed in many ramblings (lengthy) I am an info nut and read most almost everything I come across and being that type of individual I could never close the door of acquiring a better understandings or possible learning new or unknown facts to me or anyone else.

 

If the old long hair can offer some  recourse, I just possibly, should think about posts that are close to personal experiences. Or Op Ed`s that voice and opinion that echo`s my personal thoughts. 

 

Come on in valve its a great learning experience, if you let it be. But be prepared not to be cuddled, get multiple points of view and as many opinions as stars at CAP but, supported when this group feels your opinions warrant it.  

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CBS Chicago Channel 2;

Chicago Restaurants Can’t Find Workers Because Stimulus Checks & Unemployment Checks Keep Them At Home....

Who`d have thought....  send the remote channel 2 down to the southeast side and check out the MIA members at CAP...

 

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"Things Go Better With Woke".....

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image.png.17fb430a634312fdfd4b3b0e19003151.png The Double Mutant Variant - - - 

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If the first few months of any leadership is looked at as a learning experience or building awareness of the process of leadership to be best suit all involved, that would give some reason/excuses for the lack of any success in the first months of any leaders performance. 

 

But, 50 years in different forms of leadership, multiple attempts at being the high ranking leader and one attribute that is very apparent once the high ranking position was slide into is the lack of positive results. Then a leader given the years of apprentice experience in the artfulness of deception one would think the number one leader would have this skillset at a much higher level if not closer to the level of a journeyman... But...

 

'Too Late': Supposed Unifier in Chief Shifts Tone on Supporting Boycotts and Georgians Should Be Outraged – RedState

 

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Through out history leaders have heard it stated time and time again. There were leaders that heard the message, took compassionate measures on the messenger and acted accordingly through out history. But then there were leaders that made the decision to act as they seen fit with considering the track record of the messenger and truthfulness of the news within the message.  

 

JMO - IMO - etc... I am leaning towards the second group of historic leaders and their response to the track record and delivery of and content of the messages of our current messengers. (ABC, NBC, CBS & CNN) 

 

Being in a democratically socialist kingdom, I have to put this in the unoffending words of a question "how do we get rid of these lying turd`s?"     

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