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Pricing doesnt include destination fee and the high doc fee which equals close to an extra $2,000 in fees. Koons remove the dest fee from proce to make it look like a bigger discount and adds it back into the low price after. And unless a very high demand vehicle, they sell all their vehicles at invoice - full holdback. This is a dealer thing, not manufacturer.

How many 2.0, 2.3, 2.7, 3.0 and 3.5s are out there? Just because one has had an issue doesnt mean the hundreds of thousands all have it. Everyone on here should know that by now. How about all the blown up 3.5s with the internal water pump that leaks all their coolant into the engine? I would sell my 2020 ST in a heartbeat if they offered the 5.0 in it. That V8 sound is really the only thing missing out of the current ST.

What?? You realize the 2.3 is rated quite a bit higher than the 3.5 that was in the 5th gen?

Already discussed here.

Coming 2020

This is a fantastic looking minivan. Always been a fan of this since it came out.

Sync 4 will have a 15" option.

Starting Feb 1st, all 2020s will get free maintenance for 3yr/36k. They are really stepping their game up. Granted now with the Ford pass points you get, it covers the first 3 services too so Ford is pretty on par with this. https://www.yahoo.com/autos/hyundai-expands-warranty-coverage-add-140000484.html

I bought my ST because I wanted a performance vehicle. The ST has an insane amount of power and incredible cornering with a fantastic upgraded performance brake package. Nothing compares to it unless you look at a DodgeDurango SRT and even with that said, it's a Dodge. If it wasn't for the ST trim, we probably wouldn't have gone with an Explorer. Also with a $60k sticker, we paid $52,200 for it. With rebates and dealer discounts, I've seen people getting them for $50k with the same sticker now, even one quoted OTD with a $49,xxx price tag. The ST for me is an incredible trim and I love just about everything about it overall. So yeah.. that's what sold me from the get go on it.

That is just plain stupid. I can't wait to see everyone sell their stock and cash out on the quick profit.

There is no accumulating or tracking. When you buy the vehicle, you automatically get 42,000 deposited. You automatically get the first 3 services for free. I agree it isnt like Hyundai and I gove them credit for doing it but it is very simple. There is nothing you need to do but tell them to use your points.

So 42,000 points is worth $210. Here is the breakdown from the Ford owner report. 7,500miles (11,000 points), 15k miles (11,000 points) and 22,500miles (20,000 points) services are covered. Those 3 equal 42k which is what Ford gives you. If you buy a diesel you are issued more points (75k) to cover the same 3 services. All you have to do is tell the cashier who you would pay for the service that you want to use your points and they can pull up your account and use them.

The points you get equate to the first 3 oil changes being free. If one chooses to use their points towards that is up to them.

Now you wait just a minute fuzzy........ Tesla has 2 tents.

That's because Ford is the past and Tesla is the future.

Had to steal this... Ford may be able to learn from Fiat. https://binged.it/2tlQi3F

Why do they need to build a gigafactory? They already sell almost 7 times the vehicles and are net profitable year after year. Seems they are doing just fine the way they are doing it. At what point will their gigafactory need another gigafactory and another? 750k? 1mil? Once they start building more factories, it's going to really resemble what all the other manufacturers are doing.

It is and I returned the message.

Curious, if it was posted on reddit and InsideEV linked to it, how is this something against InsideEV? They didnt create the posts and conversations.

6 years old this may and my 6.7 has had ZERO issues with anything dpf or emissions related. If you consider 5 gallons of DEF every oil change a headache, then I guess yes. When you sell, you get back just about every penny of that diesel option so although it does cost more upfront in regards to a payment, it doesnt cost much more in the long run. Add to that the fun factor of HP/torque, I wouldn't go gas.

https://insideevs.com/news/396298/ford-mach-e-better-than-tesla/

We ask this all the time...

Yup, blend doors.. typically 4 of them on a dual zone system. One controls drivers side hot/cold, one controls passenger hot cold, one controls direction (defrost, floor etc).. dont remember the 4th without looking it up. The hot air is there, the door controls how much mixes with cold so as you tease the temp, the door diverts instantly so it s hei oyld only take a second or two tops to feel it.

Not if the deposits are refundable. A refundable deposit means nothing. They can get their money back at any time. There is zero commitment when a refundable deposit is made. Their deposit system is purely interest free loans from consumers to continue running their business in the red. You would be a great Marketing/PR spokesman for Tesla the way you constantly try to spin them in such a fantastic well operated company.

So how does the $2,500 deposits for the Model Y and the $100 deposit (250,000 reservations) at a $25 million. I cant stand his business model of let take deposits years in advance so we can play with people's money. If every single vehicle that is made is sold (questionable), then why do they need a deposit years in advance?