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Is anyone actually surprised the Escape came in last? We know it's just not that good. We've talked about it since it's release. Sidenote: Just looking at the interior compared to the rest speaks volume of how much effort was put in this. I don't get it. If I were a part of this company other than being a fan, it's no way in hell I would've released the Escape as it is. It's not bad but it just doesn't stack up to the rest in it's class in design (subjective) or quality.

A little clearer and brighter. I'm excited to get in and compare the 2dr and 4dr. I can't yet decide which one I'll prerfer.

I've loved the Puma since it was first shown. I've watched several reviews of it on youtube and most say it's best in it's class. I really wish they'd bring it here! I'd take one as a daily.

Exactly

I was hoping for a tailgate as well. It's one of my favorite things about my Bronco. But it isn't a deal breaker for me. I'll likely buy Mach E until I can afford a used Bronco Raptor.

I think he's hoping for a "trick" swing gate and tail gate.

Those headlamps look like they're from the Kia Telluride, and the C-Clamp design looks straight from the GM trucks... Still, I'm a fan of the F-Series so excited to see what it'll look like at it's reveal.

Just my two cents... if he wants to discuss a SFA, and you guys dont, just dont engage! Quite simple... No one has to be silenced or put in time out just because you guys are tired of hearing it. Just stop talking to him about it. There are plenty of other people here who isn't discussing a SFA that you can engage with. I don't think it's fair to try and control what someone wants to discuss, even you find it annoying. HOWEVER, Steve you shouldn't be making personal attacks, insinuating that they are "stupid" or lack comprehension skills, etc. We're all adults here ❤️

Yeah the Ecoboost is cool but I'd take a Sport Trac Adrenalin V8 over the new Ranger any day... and 6.5 so I could use the bigger interior lol The V8 in the Explorer/Mountaineer was no slouch, but it's not just about performance... I prefer the looks, feel, and sound of the Adrenalin as well.

I still wish to own a Sport Trac Adrenalin V8... but man have they held their value!

Batteries for these vehicles need to be recyclable too, if they not already. Go all in in creating a truly green future for the world.

Kill it with gasoline and a match

!!!! That would be perfect! The first gen Jeep Wrangler Unlimited (2-Door) is still my fav wrangler. That new Gladiator in Mojave trim is a beast though.

Enough about this escalade... what ownership updates do you have for us? ?

I've never bought a car brand new off the lot so maybe I don't know. Of course everyone knows you can negotiate a price when purchasing a car but there's a big difference in negotiating a price and just expecting to get almost 10k off a vehicle just because you think the automaker has it overpriced...

I agree... For example, not knowing about deals and incentitives, if I were in the market, I wouldn't even go test a new explorer because in my mind I already feel I would have to pay an extra 10k to get similarly equipped Tulleride. And what about the people (like me) who do comparative build&price online before they even make it to the dealership and see any type of marked down pricing.

I don't like the exterior, specifically the weirdly flat front end and bland, cheap looking headlamps... I love some of the details inside and out though. But the 3D surround view camera thingy is cool AF!

Can anyone explain why there's such a high price, only to be marked down by dealers? Why not just give it an market price MSRP?

I was thinking and hoping Lincoln would drop a concept at this years NY show BUT if all of the attention will be on the Bronco, maybe we'll get something at the NAIAS from Lincoln.

Bronco Hybrid? Bronco Raptor?

I'm a Mustang & Bronco owner, and will be deciding "cross shopping" the new Bronco with a Mustang Mach E. Other than a Used GT350, there's nothing else I want in that price range.

I've been silenced! Kidding, understood (though we were completely civil and respectful, I get that this isn't reddit).

I hope the fusion ends up as less of a wagon and more of a coupe crossover... unlikely

I can't recall but a mule is something that's easy to forget so you could be right.

I wonder if we'll see a Lincoln concept at the NY show this year.