Emilner

I have a 2019 Navigator. It is on 3.0.

Are there any meaningful changes with 3.4? My main gripe is not being able to save FM and Sirius channels in the same preset group. Also not being able to just keep scrolling presets without selecting a new group is so 1990's.

Even at 80mph my L gets over 20mpg. I've done 90+ in my truck and it just shouldn't be a regular thing- in no way shape or form is the truck stabile at those speeds.

You can't compare a Nav to an F150 because you are forgetting about the 3rd row. A pickup is dead flat out back whereas that depression where your feet and folding seats go sits right over the tank necessitating it shrinking. Just think about this logically - where would you put 13 one gallon milk jugs under the truck and keep them safe? There is only so much room under there between the frame rails, in front of the axle, away from the driveshaft, exhaust and structure. I mention GM trucks because they are the main competition and are right in line. The last Escalade/Tahoe had a 26 gallon tank but when they resigned it with an independent rear like the Nav they shrunk it to 24 gallons because of the space. This isn't something you can fix, it's just not possible. I do prefer a larger tank because frankly I hate getting gas. The extra space, better ride quality and larger gas tank has had me buy ESV's and my Nav L. If it really means that much to you trade in for an L...

My L came with a 28 gallon tank, we never have an issue with it. I believe a 23 gallon tank is pretty standard in a short wheelbase truck and in line with GM trucks. At normal speeds there is quite a bit of range. You can't blame them for you driving exceptionally fast...

Congrats on the purchase. Just curious- being a Florida truck did it come with 4wd and all season tires?

We have the same thing. I have been to the dealer twice- the first time they say it's working normal ?. The second time they said they reprogrammed it and it is still giving me trouble. And now the drivers outside mirror is also not going to the correct setting. Frustrating...

I made a quick comment because there are so many posts from viper outlining every imaginable problem. It's at the point that he/she has the worst vehicle ever made or they work for Caddy and are trolling us...

You clearly have a lemon.

The truck should shut the interior lights off after a short period of time. We go upstate NY every other week and I'm often packing the truck over a period of 20-30 minutes as we gather stuff. I just leave the gate open in the garage and after maybe 15 or 20 minutes all the interior lights are off.

I'll try and upload a few pics but this forum is wonky. I'm in NY- where are you? D9090585-00C8-44B3-9B79-0B7A09B25A94.heic 1C5FB48B-9D25-419B-9E0F-DB95A06882D2.heic

We have virtually twin trucks. I have a 2019 BL L in white with chalet. I really do love the truck. Great choice in truck and colors!

Congrats on the ride- I have a similar setup. The 22's certainly shudder over rough roads, drive the same truck with 20's and it's much smoother. Our escalade was much rougher though. I love the interior- I really wouldn't change anything. The one major glaring issue is the infotainment system. It sucks. I guess if you have only had Fords/Lincolns in the past you are used to it, but for those of us who have had just about any other brand it's horrible. Why can't you have more than 6 presets on that huge screen- you literally have to switch a screen and radio station to get to more presets- that's absurd. And why can't you have FM and XM mixed together on the same preset screen? The volume thing is dumb too. And whenever I'm in CarPlay and the massaging seats go off or something it goes to the seat screen and stays there. I think whoever designed it is a lifetime Ford'er and has never been in another vehicle.

Congrats! I have a 2019 BL white with chalet- I love the combo. I think you will really love the truck.

I also have this squeak. The top portion of the seat is sort of suspended and allows for front to back movement- it's that movement that seams to trigger it. When I head in for service I plan on having that addressed as well as the steering wheel that never remembers it's proper position...

We traded in a 2016 ESV for a 2019 Nav black label L. The Nav has a much smoother ride than the ESV but the tradeoff is it isn't quite as sporty. It still does have the typical 22" bounce when hitting a rough patch but overall it is quiet, smooth and refined on the road...

My 2019 (built march 2019) also times out (and so do all other manufacturers I have had massaging seats in). What I find more annoying it when it does timeout and you get the on screen message the screen fails to go back to where it was prior to the message, such as if you are using waze it doesn't go back to waze it just leaves the seat screen on.

I have a 2019 BL with the Chalet theme. We have 3 kids aged 6-14 and a giant schnauzer. We go on road trips to our upstate lake house at least twice a month. I haven't had any issues keeping it clean (and my wife is not a clean vehicle keeper if you know what I mean). My car is always spotless, hers not so much. So aside from finding the occasional unintentional science experiment I clean the truck at least once a month at the dealer (they actually do quite a good job, they even armor all the tires!). I have only hit the seats once to get the blue from jeans off (quick leather cleaner followed by conditioner), took 5 minutes. I highly recommend the truck, it has been spectacular (and blows away our old 2016 Escalade platinum ESV). If you are getting stuck on price join the Mustang club of America - you will immediately qualify for X plan which gives you roughly $5500 off sticker.

Thanks, I will try that this week.

Maybe I'm doing something wrong- I use Waze in CarPlay. To get back to radio you have to get out of waze, scroll one page over and select lincoln then that gets you back to audio. Is there another way of using waze? I don't know why they don't let you continue scrolling to other presets when in say XM. Now you have to load the next set of presents. I mean, come on- just go the the next set lol. I listen to a local station on FM that play classic rock and have a great morning show. And I'm often in the Hudson Valley which has a fantastic station WRRV.

Agreed on the panel alignment. Every time I fill the gas tank I look down the truck and you can see the front fender sticking out a good 1/4" from the door. One thing I really want fixed is with the audio controls. Right now I can't have XM and FM stations on the same preset "line". So you have to select XM to get to your XM presets and FM to get to your FM presets. Then if you have more than 6 presets you have to select a different preset menu to access those presets. Talk about annoying and dangerous. If you are using Waze it's 6-7 steps to change the radio station! And yes you can use the steering controls to change stations- but only within the current 6 presets you have selected.

After 5 Escalades a Denali and a GL we have decided to switch over to a Navigator. There really is no comparison between the current generation Escalade and the new Nav. They really leapfrogged with this one. We never really liked the latest gen ESV but there really wasn't a second choice up until now. So yesterday we ordered a black label L- white with alpine espresso using the X plan discount. Looking forward to getting the truck but the wait will be long!