silvrsvt Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 (edited) And people complain about Ford NA refreshes? http://jalopnik.com/photogallery/EuroFordFocusFL/ Edited September 11, 2007 by silvrsvt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker16 Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 And people complain about Ford NA redesigns? http://jalopnik.com/photogallery/EuroFordFocusFL/ its a refresh not a redesign. been on market for 3 years. the redesign comes in 2009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolita Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 its a refresh not a redesign. been on market for 3 years. the redesign comes in 2009 Yes, this is a minor and IMHO an effective one. Should be enough to soldier on until 2009/2010 when the MkIII arrives Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLPRacing Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 For a MCE, I don't think they did too bad of a job. It kept what was good about the current design and added a Mondeo face. I think it looks pretty damn good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted September 11, 2007 Author Share Posted September 11, 2007 its a refresh not a redesign. been on market for 3 years. the redesign comes in 2009 redesign/refresh...whatever...all they did was change the headlights and grilll..oohhhh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted September 11, 2007 Author Share Posted September 11, 2007 (edited) stupid double posting! Edited September 11, 2007 by silvrsvt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Reynolds Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 For a MCE, I don't think they did too bad of a job. It kept what was good about the current design and added a Mondeo face. I think it looks pretty damn good. Going forward Ford needs to take a little more caution with refreshes and redesigns. This thing looks too close to the S40. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolita Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 redesign/refresh...whatever...all they did was change the headlights and grilll..oohhhh Thats why even Ford calls this a minor refresh.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted September 11, 2007 Author Share Posted September 11, 2007 Thats why even Ford calls this a minor refresh.... Well if you noticed my sub title..it says....most underwhelming refresh ever... This is as bad as what Ford did with the NA Focus in 2005... And people where all over that like stink on shit, but yet again FOE gets a free pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKII Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 redesign/refresh...whatever...all they did was change the headlights and grilll..oohhhh Inside, the Focus features new instruments designed for better visibility, a new center console option with such features as a 230 volt inverter and USB audio connection, and new colors and materials. Beginning in 2008, Ford's state-of-the-art PowerShift transmission will be available in the Focus mated to a 2.0-liter Duratorq TDCi common-rail turbo diesel. The PowerShift is a dual-clutch transmission combining the operation of an automatic transmission with dynamics and fuel efficiency of a manual. When combined with the 2.0-liter diesel, the powertrain offers 10 percent better fuel efficiency and lower carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions compared to a conventional six-speed automatic. New features include a capless refuelling system, the new Ford Power Button, a button to start the Focus as long as the driver carries the key, tire pressure warning system and LED rear lights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShockFX Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 redesign/refresh...whatever...all they did was change the headlights and grilll..oohhhh If it looks good....should they slap body cladding and plastic all over it for no reason? You're somewhat limited to what you can do lookswise by the platform. See the new Taurus where the lines don't flow *QUITE* as well as on the Fusion. Besides, it's a refresh after 2-3 years to last another 2, not a 6 year ('00 - '05 is 6 model years) refresh like the 2005 Focus was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 You're somewhat limited to what you can do lookswise by the platform. Yes, as C1 is so inflexible. I mean everything that uses the C1 platform looks identical because they are limited in what they can do with it. :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Reynolds Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 If it looks good....should they slap body cladding and plastic all over it for no reason? You're somewhat limited to what you can do lookswise by the platform. See the new Taurus where the lines don't flow *QUITE* as well as on the Fusion. Besides, it's a refresh after 2-3 years to last another 2, not a 6 year ('00 - '05 is 6 model years) refresh like the 2005 Focus was. You are confusing platform with sheetmetal. Two entirely different things. Just because vehicles share platforms does not mean the sheetmetal needs to look at all similar. For an example look at the Mazda 3 and then look at the Volvo S40. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolita Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 silvrsvt Posted Today, 09:17 AM QUOTE(bolita @ Sep 11 2007, 09:15 AM) Thats why even Ford calls this a minor refresh.... Well if you noticed my sub title..it says....most underwhelming refresh ever... This is as bad as what Ford did with the NA Focus in 2005... And people where all over that like stink on shit, but yet again FOE gets a free pass Well, if you look at the 2007 vs 2008 Focus you'll see that even the side sheetmateal has changed: 2007 2008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igor Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 yes - all sheet metal except for the roof was changed .. despite the drolling in the US, the C1 Focus is largely considered a HUGE BLANDMOBILE in EU - it is a great car, but bland as hell - this refresh is supposed to rectify that ... and expect the 2010 Focus3 to fully depart from this bland look to something very Verve-ishly exciting. Igor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 2008 That door crease looks almost the same as our fugly '08 Focus. I wonder if that was intentional in an attempt to find some sort of commonality between the two schools of design before they are merged (mostly) on the C2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igor Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 That door crease looks almost the same as our fugly '08 Focus. I wonder if that was intentional in an attempt to find some sort of commonality between the two schools of design before they are merged (mostly) on the C2? it was said many times before - the 08 Focus is quite kinetic in its design .. it is quite CRUDE in the execution and tries a little too hard to impress and surprise, but save for hte "trapezoidal lower intake" - the whole 08 Focus is very kinetic: -the overall shape of the tail - the tail lights - the greenhouse shape - the body crease on the side - the upper grill shape and headlight shape Igor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White99GT Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 And people complain about Ford NA refreshes? http://jalopnik.com/photogallery/EuroFordFocusFL/ All in all, I think that Focus is an attractive car. I prefer it to the 2008 FNA Focus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShockFX Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 You are confusing platform with sheetmetal. Two entirely different things. Just because vehicles share platforms does not mean the sheetmetal needs to look at all similar. For an example look at the Mazda 3 and then look at the Volvo S40. I'm not confusing them. I meant you can't vastly change the sheetmetal in a minor refresh because you'd have to change all the underlying parts. Saying platform was the wrong choice of words, sorry. For example, you can't have a minor refresh of slapping the Mazda3 sheet metal onto the Euro Focus, now can you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Reynolds Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 I ll take the Euro Focus before the redesign. It looks a lot cleaner. The revised version appears too fat and squat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShockFX Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 I ll take the Euro Focus before the redesign. It looks a lot cleaner. The revised version appears too fat and squat. No wonder us Americans love it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 redesign/refresh...whatever...all they did was change the headlights and grilll..oohhhh Wow. Sounds like the '05 NA Focus. ooohhhh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTAUS Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 From what I've seen so far, I like it. It wasn't earth shattering, but it's still cohesive overall. Something new NA '08 Can't say since it seems as 2 different committees designed it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LincolnFan Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 They haven't addressed the number 1 problem, THE BLANDNESS!!111 I hope they changed the current IP with a new one with different colors other than green. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted September 11, 2007 Share Posted September 11, 2007 Wow. Sounds like the '05 NA Focus. ooohhhh Exactly...and we all know how that turned out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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