suv_guy_19 Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 (edited) When was the last time you bought a minivan? Oh hes too busy collecting dinosaurs to even consider such a purchase. One black and white dinosaur at a time.... Edited May 22, 2008 by suv_guy_19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96 Pony Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 So THERE is where the Avenger's ribbed hood went - now being used as side panels on the Flex! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suv_guy_19 Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 So THERE is where the Avenger's ribbed hood went - now being used as side panels on the Flex! No, they're on the hood of every Chrysler. On some of those, it looks bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchdevil Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 A Mini Cooper for big fat families! The Maxi Cooper! It has taken so long for this vehicle to come to fruit that it doesn't even seem new anymore... The front end always reminds me of the Ford Fairmont wagon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchdevil Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 I seem to recall a discussion with Fields who admitted that they foresee a brief lifespan for the Flex (4 years I believe). However, with a 100,000 production goal, this is very large volume if Fields forsees this as a flash-in-the-pan product. The Ford Explorer will be a more conventional *(assuming) large CUV which will probably carry away some of the Flex market in 2012. It seems like a total waste to create and invest in new brand equity for something that has a short lifespan. However, it remains to be seen if buyers prefer the brand equity of the Explorer name over something newer like the Flex. The Explorer image may be a little tired and stale at this point... It may also carry a stigma of being thirsty and too trucklike which is what buyers ae moving away from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suv_guy_19 Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 It has taken so long for this vehicle to come to fruit that it doesn't even seem new anymore... Don't speak for everyone. I think it looks better each time I see it. Most people won't even have seen it yet, I think people will see it as a fresh alternative to the competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P71_CrownVic Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 I think people will see it as a fresh alternative to the competition. Yeah...because the station wagon market is a booming one.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 Yeah...because the station wagon market is a booming one.... You probably would have thought the Fiesta was a stupid idea 7-8 years ago too. Vehicles are trending smaller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igor Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 Yeah...because the station wagon market is a booming one.... The Flex might just make it one ... Just watch .... I agree with nick ... after all which idiot would buy a FWD 100hp shitbox for $17,000 if they can have a much larger RWD Panther with 250hp, that gets 30mpg highway .. WHO!?!? Igor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 I see the Flex as a possible mainstream/ smaller replacement for the Expedition.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fbmphil Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 (edited) I see the Flex as a possible mainstream/ smaller replacement for the Expedition.... IMO, the Flex is more of a replacement for the current Explorer than the Expedition. After seeing an Explorer and a Flex right next to each other...it's pretty obvious that Ford left room for a larger vehicle in the segment than the Flex, i.e. the unibody Exploder replacement. Expeditions are downright gargantuan compared to the Flex. Edited May 22, 2008 by fbmphil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 IMO, the Flex is more of a replacement for the current Explorer than the Expedition. After seeing an Explorer and a Flex right next to each other...it's pretty obvious that Ford left room for a larger vehicle in the segment than the Flex, i.e. the unibody Exploder replacement. Expeditions are downright gargantuan compared to the Flex. possibly...but Flex is more user friendly than both...gotta love it...reason I compared it with the Expedition is that all are currently downsizing........( still think they missed the boat by not having sliders both sides of the Flex...but perhaps that WOULD have triggered the "minivan" response...).... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P71_CrownVic Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 You probably would have thought the Fiesta was a stupid idea 7-8 years ago too. Vehicles are trending smaller. Everyone did. Gas was a DOLLAR a gallon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Everyone did. Gas was a DOLLAR a gallon. damn thats depressing........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fbmphil Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 possibly...but Flex is more user friendly than both...gotta love it...reason I compared it with the Expedition is that all are currently downsizing........( still think they missed the boat by not having sliders both sides of the Flex...but perhaps that WOULD have triggered the "minivan" response...).... User-friendly is right. I almost took my head out playing around with the power-folding seats today :shades: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Critic Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Expeditions are downright gargantuan compared to the Flex. MY! How quickly they forget the Excursion Valdez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fbmphil Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 MY! How quickly they forget the Excursion Valdez. Ugh. Some things are better off left forgotten... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLPRacing Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 I see the Flex as a possible mainstream/ smaller replacement for the Expedition.... IMO, the Flex is more of a replacement for the current Explorer than the Expedition. After seeing an Explorer and a Flex right next to each other...it's pretty obvious that Ford left room for a larger vehicle in the segment than the Flex, i.e. the unibody Exploder replacement. Expeditions are downright gargantuan compared to the Flex. I don't think the Flex replaces the Expedition or the Explorer. I believe the Flex will be the non-minivan/non-SUV alternative for people seeking a usuable 3 row vehicle. The Expedition will remain for people who will need up to 8 passenger seating, cargo carrying capacity & trailer towing capabilities (like myself). The new rumored uni-body Explorer should fit very nicely between the Flex & Expedition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P71_CrownVic Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 damn thats depressing........... I know. I remember when people were freaking out at 1.79 a gallon. $2.00 was just astonishing. Hell, look at what it says under NLPRacing's screen name... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLPRacing Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Everyone did. Gas was a DOLLAR a gallon. Actually, in June of 2000, it was $1.64 and we all blamed Clinton for crazy high gas prices... Flashback — CNN, June 23, 2000:Bush was critical of Al Gore in the 2000 campaign for being part of “the administration that’s been in charge” while the “price of gasoline has gone steadily upward.” Gas prices have soared this week to a national average of $1.64 a gallon, and to well over $2 a gallon in the Chicago and Milwaukee area, setting off a frenzy of finger-pointing involving the Clinton administration, Congress, oil companies and refineries, and the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries.LINK Funny how times have changed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
range Posted May 23, 2008 Author Share Posted May 23, 2008 (edited) Yea, its amazing how not drilling for oil in the US would lead to higher gas prices for consumers. Who would have ever predicted that outcome? What a total shock! Edited May 23, 2008 by range Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papilgee4evaeva Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 I know. I remember when people were freaking out at 1.79 a gallon. $2.00 was just astonishing. Hell, look at what it says under NLPRacing's screen name... I remember when it cost me $35 to fill up, and I was pissed. A few more weeks (days, actually... isn't a holiday coming?) and gas will have tripled nationally during the Shrub administration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 A few more weeks (days, actually... isn't a holiday coming?) and gas will have tripled nationally during the Shrub administration. Yes, and I'm sure if Obama gets elected, gas prices are going to magically drop back to $1.25/gallon. Because, you know, the president has a lever on the desk in the oval office that he can push or pull to raise and lower gas prices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Ford Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 It's right next to the keypad used to set output and unemployment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papilgee4evaeva Posted May 23, 2008 Share Posted May 23, 2008 Yes, and I'm sure if Obama gets elected, gas prices are going to magically drop back to $1.25/gallon. Because, you know, the president has a lever on the desk in the oval office that he can push or pull to raise and lower gas prices. Something about "war" in the Middle East always seems to have a detrimental effect on gas prices. I'm not too young to remember my dad mentioning higher gas prices in the Persian Gulf War. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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